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All Forum Posts by: AJ D.

AJ D. has started 7 posts and replied 11 times.

My Rental PIS date will be August 1, 2024. I currently just have a 2-door honda that I will use for business travel/managing the rental. Ideally, I'd like to buy a more practical car for managing my rental (something with more storag space) later this year. 

Question - Can I use standard mileage for my current honda, and then once I buy a business vehicle use actual expenses? Or, do I have to stick with 1 (standard or actual) for the whole year, regardless of a new car purchase?

Post: De Minimis Safe Harbor

AJ D.Posted
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Hi - Getting very close to completing my new build construction and had 2 questions around De Minimus Safe Harbor rules/accounting

1)  For appliances that I purchase BEFORE official "available to rent" date. Do these have to be capitalized? For example, a dryer that costs $1500, can I use De Minimus Safe Harbor for that, or does it still need to be capitalized since I purchased it before officially putting cabin up for rent?

2) Can De Minimus Safe Harbor result in a  net operating loss? 

Thanks everyone! And yes, I do plan to do a cost seg and I’m hoping since I have the actual costs that I won’t need to pay a 3rd party to do a cost seg study for me.  

How would you account for appreciation/upgrades to a new construction build from a Cost basis perspective?

Ex) Original build was estimated to be $500k, however during the build upgrades were selected such as windows, larger patio, upgraded floors, etc.

Option A - Would you have the property reassessed after completion and use the new assessed value for cost basis? 

Option B - Use the original amount of $500k, and add the dollar value of the upgrades (windows, floors, etc.) 

Appreciate any help and if there is a 3rd option that would be great to know! Ideally, I want to make it as efficient as possible while still being compliant from an accounting/IRS perspective. 

My orignal new construction build was for around $400k, with some upgrades it will end up closer to $430k. When it comes time to calculate depreciation, will I use the $400k or $430k amount (land is already not included). I am trying to understand which number would be used for depreciation purposes.

Post: New Construction - depreciation

AJ D.Posted
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In terms of depreciation - what happens if your new constrution build ends up being more than the original loan amount?

For example, I initially had my new construction build assessed at $400k, however there were some upgrades along the way (windows, doors, patio, etc.) that will now end up closer to $430k. 

Is it ok for me to use the $430k number for depreciation purposes, or am I limited to the $400k amount since that was the original appraisal estimate for the intitial construction loan?

Quote from @Michael Baum:

Hey @AJ D., you really need to ask a CPA on this, but I believe that you can't officially deduct those expenses.

We put our place "in service" before it was really ready just to capitalize on the deductions for all the work. We did rent it to guests, but they were folks we knew to get their feedback before going live on VRBO and AirBNB.

Still, check with a STR savvy CPA.


 Thanks for the insight, much appreciated!

Quote from @Aaron Zimmerman:

You would need to keep track of all purchases before it was placed into service. Let’s say you purchased $10,000 of furniture before you advertised for rent on 9/1. You would start depreciating the furniture on 9/1. If 2022, you get 100% bonus depreciation for furniture. If 2023, you get 80% bonus depreciation. 

de minimis safe harbor election only applies once the property is placed in service.



 thank you!

I understand the IRS views the first day of your rental to be when it's available for use (not when you purchase) but how does this impact business/tax deductions?
For example - I have a rental property that is put in-use on July 1st, but I bought furniture throughout the months of May and June. Is this furniture able to fall under the de minimus safe harbor even though it was purchased before the officail "in-use" date? If not, how do rental property owners tend to deduct furniture and other appliances that are purchased before the formal in-use date?

Thanks Joseph. And one last question/confirmation.
My understanding is a short term rental life span is considered 39 years (rather than 27.5), so does that mean I can consider it a "Vacation/short-term rental" in terms of property type, but still depreciate it over 39 years? 
Or would classifying it as #3, mean it too has to be depreciated over 27.5 years?