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All Forum Posts by: Anthony L.

Anthony L. has started 2 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: College student buying first rental property

Anthony L.Posted
  • Rochester, NY
  • Posts 7
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Okay, I will continue to look for another property with a lower interest rate. My real purpose of the thread was to see if I am on the right track though and advice on things I should be looking out for to tell if the investment is good or not. Also does concept of building wealth rather than looking for immediate profit sound realistic or am I overlooking something. 

Post: College student buying first rental property

Anthony L.Posted
  • Rochester, NY
  • Posts 7
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1. It will not require any more work than I am comfortable handling. I do not have a job now but I would like to get a small part time job regardless.

2. It is basically exactly what you said which is why I am not terribly worried. It's 30 years but we want to pay it off in 5. That was our goal and I do have 5 summer, and half school year internships that pay about 12k each one so I can pay bulk if needed. 

3. It's owner financed. If it comes down to my parents. Yes they could give me a loan to pay for the whole house but I am not even telling them I am doing this. It is solely on me.

4. I don't have any student loans. My parents pay for my college in full and all living expenses until I graduate. This is why I want to take advantage of the opportunity while I have it.

5. This area has small extremely cheap houses. That's why I am trying to buy some as starters. It will cost $50k. 2 units combined bring in $1295 a month, tenants pay utilities. Taxes are about $2200 a year, and you have general other expenses like insurance, water, and management.

Post: College student buying first rental property

Anthony L.Posted
  • Rochester, NY
  • Posts 7
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@Christopher Schmidt: Thanks for the reply. There is a slight cash reserve but the point of us getting so close to a break even point is so we can pay it off entirely in 5 years. We were given a 30 year limit but we want to get it all paid off for when we graduate so we immediately have positive cash flow to rely on. As for our personal selves, if there are any emergencies we have a few thousand on hand but would like to keep everything coming in an out of one bank account meaning theres nothing out of our pockets and the house is self sustained by the rent coming in paying all expenses. I do also have a credit card for the business I own that has a 35k credit line. Problem is it doesn't count for my personal credit and even the banker I worked with tried but said how terrible that was that they wouldn't count it.

I'm not sure if everyones not understanding our plan or I am just getting myself into a mess but basically what we want to do is take advantage of the fact that we are in college so we don't need any money to support ourselves while on campus. We put the money from our business and part time jobs into a few investment houses and pay them off in 5 years time which is the highest amount of mortgage we can do without going below breaking even. We have some but not a lot in cash reserves but would like to keep each house on an individual self sustaining account. The houses will be paid off around our graduation time and then we will immediately start having positive cash flow and no mortgage to worry about. 

A random example is if I buy a 100k house for 10k down. Rent pays all expenses and when I graduate it's paid off and I own a 100k asset now with only 10k down. I could either keep the rental income or sell it and get whatever market value is. But in the end I still came out with a ton more than I went into with. Thats what I mean by building wealth with it. I'm not looking to take profits from the rent every month. I'm looking to come out in the end with more by paying it off quick and utilizing the only time in my life where I will be old enough to do my own business but not have to worry about any personal financial expenses.

@Anthony L. If you break even each month, it will be difficult to build 'wealth' or have income until that property is paid off (and you won't be able to pay off early without extra cash).  There are many properties in Rochester that offer positive cash flow so don't rush into it.  I've purchased a house that had 'everything replaced' but I've been hit with big bills unexpectedly...so if you feel the urge still without cash reserves (or the ability to build one) I hope you have some credit you can tap into (which it doesn't sound like do).  There are always deals, if it were me I would sit this one out.  What neighborhood/zip code you looking in?

Chris

Post: College student buying first rental property

Anthony L.Posted
  • Rochester, NY
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 0

The point of doing this is to build wealth. I'm in college so I don't need money for the next few years. Even if I break even every month, I am putting almost nothing down on the house so by the time I graduate I will have that income plus the asset if I want to sell. I plan on finding a lot of these with putting very little down and just breaking even or making even a little just to build up the wealth since I don't need even a pen of profit while I'm here in college.

Post: College student buying first rental property

Anthony L.Posted
  • Rochester, NY
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 0

Hi,

My partner and I are both in our second year of college. We found a pretty decent starter house that we are very interested in. It is a duplex with nice tenants and a lot of important things replaced within the past few years so it won't be needing a lot of repairs. The owner is offering 12% APR on our financing. I know it's a crazy rate but I do understand that not a lot of people would hand over money to 2 19 year old kids with no credit. We don't really need money in college so we aren't taking any profits in order to pay the mortgage off in 5 years time. I have all the calculations in place to have all the necassary payments such as mortgage, taxes, insurance, management company, and water. We will have a very little left at the end of each month in case of required maintenance or vacancies.

I am looking for any other general advice anyone can give me as to what to look out for because this is very big responsibility and weight being put on my shoulders if I go along with this. We are both basically putting ourselves in huge debt without jobs for the next 3 years. We have ran a business in the past to have a small income but nothing that can really help aid the payments of a house.

Thanks

Post: New from Rochester, NY

Anthony L.Posted
  • Rochester, NY
  • Posts 7
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Hi, my name is A.J. I am from NYC but will be residing in Rochester, NY for the next few years. I am a freshman in college majoring in engineering. I have been running a few small businesses I founded in high school and do pretty well. From the business I own I have a lot of money to put down on investment properties. I would like to go into this with a partner that has been working with me for years. He is a business major also a freshman in college. He is in Miami so I view the scenario as an opportunity to expand the asset locations. My parents own multiple investment properties in NYC and being their oldest son I have always helped them manage them so I have some experience being a landlord. What I would like to do is more of a property owning business and hire a management company right off the bat. This is just my quick intro. I have many questions before diving into this stuff so hopefully you guys can help me along the way.