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All Forum Posts by: Ahmad Moore

Ahmad Moore has started 16 posts and replied 71 times.

Post: Pre-foreclosure home located in Mobile, AL!!

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16

A close friend of the family ,who was married, and had a house together got divorced and in between that time, she did a QC and removed her name from the deed. The ex husband is now deceased, no will, but there are heirs. However, the ex wife name remains on the loan itself. From what I was told, no one is interested in the house. It’s 40k in the arrears (Pre-foreclosure)with an approximate 111k remaining. I’m interested in the property but trying to figure out what’s the best recourse in obtaining it. All responses are greatly appreciated.

Post: Cash Out Refinance

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16

@Jay Hurst definitely! Thanks!

Post: Cash Out Refinance

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16

Omg.. lol If no other details of the loan was given to the lenders how in the world would they know when I purchased said home? SMH. I’ll try next month the seasoning time would have exhausted and update the masses.🙂

Post: Cash Out Refinance

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16

@Pat Lulewicz absolutely! I was willing and did lose what I paid for the appraisal and valuable time of submitting so much paperwork, but I think it was worth it! Btw, it was 2%, but don't tell anyone..smh. lol Yes, it was tight- I think I was looking at about $200 (wouldve been my lowest cashflow to date) but my plan was to clear up remaining debts and also its already written that next year my rents were increasing to $1900 anyhow so I was going to ride the wave.

Post: Cash Out Refinance

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16

@Jay Hurst, to address your concern as to why I keep dismissing seasoning wasn't an issue, because that is TO BE TRUE..lol!!  I think I wrote, and I don't feel like checking, and if I said anything different, I apologize.  I'll even expound further... my traditional banks DID NOT have an issue with me getting the loan, I decided not to do it because they, although temporary, are doing 75% of the PURCHASE COST + REHAB instead of the typical appraised value that I am accustomed to.

So again, I, myself did not move forward. Nothing more, nothing less.

Post: Cash Out Refinance

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16

@Tarik Turner, it wasn't a seasoning issue. My original banks changed their lending practices, although it may be temporary. Like I mentioned, instead of lending 75% of the appraised value, they're lending 75% of the purchase price+ rehab- that was the issue.

Post: Cash Out Refinance

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16
Quote from @David Pearl:
Quote from @Ahmad Moore:

I’m experiencing a slight problem that I didn’t know existed until now and it may just be regional. (Mobile, Al) The two banks I tried to see what the numbers would be regarding a cash-out refinance, they only do 75% of the purchase price + construction cost and not 75% of appraised value that I’m used to.

I did try a DSCR refi, and after several paperwork being submitted, credit score ran, appraisal bought, only to have my numbers change before signing the docs for closing-so that was a dud.


My question, who do you know that’s a reputable Union or bank that’s doing at least 75% of appraised value?

@Ahmad Moore - I understand this must be frustrating for you. I would be happy to take a closer look at the details of your scenario and see how we can help. I will send you a DM now. 


 Thank you!

Post: Cash Out Refinance

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Erik Estrada:

So there is a few things I would like to point out here:

1. On a conventional loan, you will need to wait 12 months to do a cash out on the new appraised value. 

2. On a DSCR loan, the minimum seasoning requirement is 90 days for any cash out, however if the property's cost + rehab does not exceed 75% of the new value, there is no seasoning requirement.

3. DSCR Lenders will generally use the lower of the two market rents or actual rents. If there is no more than a 20% variance you may have a case to use the higher of the two as long as you can document two months of monthly rent.

4. If the goal is to do 75% of the new value, and you are running into DSCR issues, you can still do it on a No ratio DSCR loan. This may require providing extra documentation such as 12 months reserves, 12 months of mortgage payments for both the rental property and primary address. It will also come at a higher rate.


 Very insightful, thanks!

Post: Cash Out Refinance

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Jake Baker:

@Ahmad Moore

It sounds like for the DSCR, either ratio was caused the adjustment, or the appraisal came in too low.


 The market rents changed the scenario...appraisal came at 30,500 over. 

Post: Cash Out Refinance

Ahmad MoorePosted
  • Investor
  • Mobile, Al
  • Posts 71
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Tarik Turner:
Sounds like it is more of a seasoning issue with the banks that you attempted to go with.
How long ago did you purchase the property? What was the reasoning for the numbers change with the DSCR lender?

No seasoning issues. My banks didnt turn me down, I didnt move forward because their lending practices has changed within the last year. DSCR note change was due to market rents they tried to go with which wasn't correct at all and I didnt like the terms...