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All Forum Posts by: Paula Pant

Paula Pant has started 0 posts and replied 4 times.

Originally posted by @Conway Churaman:

@Account Closed , I'm reading a little bit about your company and I will be looking forward to meeting you indeed.

I love @Tim Chapman's remark: "Perhaps the big question is are you more interested in real estate investing or just freeing yourself from the 9-to-5?"

I notice that in your answer, you stated: "But It's high time now that I pursue it so I can find out for myself if it's for me."

But ... is it?

I might be misinterpreting or misunderstanding your situation. But based on what I'm hearing you say, it seems to me like your #1 priority, at this time, is to shed the stuff that's bad ... namely, your job and your high-cost-of-living environment.

So that's Step #1. And I'd focus on that first, before foraying into real estate investing.

Quitting your job, moving to another state and investing in RE for the first time -- those are three massive, seperate undertakings, and they're better pursued one-at-a-time.

So here's what I'd recommend:

Prioritize those three goals. Decide which one you want to pursue first, and focus on that. Stay focused until you can confidently put a "checkmark" next to that goal; you can mark it as complete. And then move to the next major undertaking.

If quitting your 9-to-5 is the primary goal, then do that first. Figure out how to support yourself without an employer you despise. Create income outside of your 9-to-5. Rebuild your savings. Then (and this may happen near-concurrently, due to your HCOL city) decide where you'd like to live. And then, once you're comfortably settled away from your current energy-draining and soul-sucking situation, start thinking creatively about real estate.

You'll have more space to be creative -- and more fun -- if your life can support your passion, rather than burdening your passion to support your life. 

This is a great question, @Conway Churaman!

Let's start with a few disclaimers:

  • I'm assuming this $30K is purely for real estate investing. Your day-to-day personal expenses are covered; you're free from credit card debt and other personal / consumer debts; you're saving in traditional retirement accounts, like a workplace 401k, up to your full employer match; you have a comfortable emergency fund.
  • I'm assuming the real estate market, at this time, is "normal" (like 2014 or 2015). You have a sense that things will progress at a steady pace. You don't get the sense that the market is in some wild speculative bubble that's imminently headed for collapse. 
  • I'm assuming I qualify for conventional financing on the investments listed below.
  • I'm assuming the rent rises at a pace that's equal to inflation (so we'll call it even).

With that said, here's what I'd do if I were starting from scratch with $30K:

1) Buy two Class B or Class C+ houses in a low-cost-of-living area. I'll use metro Atlanta as an example, since I know this area so well: I'd buy 2 SFRs, each of which are worth $50k. I'd put a 30% downpayment on each ($15k on each, for a total of $30k). 

2) Assuming at least a 1.5% Rule, these would rent for $750 per month each, or $1,500 per month total. Assuming that half of this goes to operating costs/vacancies/etc., I pocket $750/month.  

3) I'd save the first 6 months of this income ($4,500) for cash reserves. Then I'd save the next 18 months of this income ($13,500) towards making a down payment on a third investment property. 

4) In the meantime, I'd have a 'day job' and save money from this to put towards future investments. Let's say that I can save a total of $1,000 per month -- that means after 2 years, I'd have another $24,000 to invest. So at this point, at the end of Year 2, I have $37,500 (which comes to $13,500 from the SFR's plus $24,000 from the day job).

5) Repeat. I'd use this $37,500 to repeat Steps 1-4.

6) At this point, at the end of Year 4, I'd have 4 properties generating $3000 per month in gross income and $1,500 per month in net income. I'd also more than $40k saved (including day job savings from the past 24 months). At this point, I probably wouldn't qualify for more conventional financing (since I'd be limited to 4 properties), so I'd use this $40k to pay off one of the houses. I'd have a little more than $5k leftover, which I'd apply towards paying off another house. Within 1 more year, by the end of Year 5, I'd have another house paid-in-full. (That's $1500 net income per month from SFRs + $1000 per month from day job = $2500 per month x 12 months = $30k in repayments, plus the extra $5k). 

At this point, it's the end of Year 5, and I own 4 houses, of which, 2 houses are free-and-clear. 

At this point, I'd re-evaluate my goals. Do I want to stay in the U.S.? If so, I probably need more money, so I'd repeat this process to buy more houses, until I've reached my financial goals. 

Do I want to retire ASAP to a tropical beach in Thailand or to a gorgeous mountaintop retreat in Colombia? If so, I probably don't need much more money, so I'd spend another year or two aggressively repaying the last two houses, and then retire in some warm tropical climate within a total of 6-7 years after this all started.

Post: Hello from Toronto!

Paula PantPosted
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 11

@Sid Hathiramani Awesome!! I'm glad you found BiggerPockets through Afford Anything ... there are some fascinating investors on this site, and you'll learn a ton of information. And @Brandon Turner rocks!!

Post: SF or Duplex for an overseas owner?

Paula PantPosted
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 11

Hey @John_N. -- The first thought that comes to my mind is that you're in the middle of renovating the duplex. And as most of us have experienced, renovations have a way of going over-budget.

So my first and foremost concern would be making sure that you have:

-- enough cash to finish the renovation,

-- plus extra to hold you over in case the renovation goes over-budget,

-- plus more to hold you over in case the vacancy takes much longer than expected to fill.

After that, I'd maintain an additional reserve that can tide you through other vacancies / repairs / maintenance / etc.

And if, after all of that, you still have enough cash to do the deal ... do it!! The 2% rule-of-thumb should provide you with a strong margin.

Just be cautious about vacancies. I have a property that provides me with the 3% rule-of-thumb (Purchase + Repairs = $30,000 and Rent = $900), which sounds awesome on the surface. But that property has high turnover and long vacancies, so its performance ends up being on-par with my 1% Rule properties.