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All Forum Posts by: Adriel Hsu

Adriel Hsu has started 16 posts and replied 161 times.

Post: Multiple Family has a high bar of entrance.

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

@Joe S. Yes, multifamily does have a high barrier to entry. Yet it still seems over-saturated with tons of competition. 

It's all about connections and who you know in the space. Nurturing relationships goes further than anything else. Good deals are acquired off-market as pocket listings from brokers. For the 10-50 units space, you can still market to "mom and pop" owners, but once you go bigger to the 100,200,300+ units, those all trade via brokers. You have a higher chance of finding a true, heavy value add with the smaller mom and pop deals.

Every market, there are about 5 brokers that control 80% of the deals. Find out who those brokers are and network with them. But don't approach them too early when you're not ready.  Be sure you can raise the funds if you are syndicating and actually close. Don't expect pocket deals to start. There's a long line in front of you who have a better relationship with that broker (unless you're targeting under 50 units as not as many people target those).

For the smaller ones (10-30) you can talk to local credit unions or banks, but once you get above $1M loan amount that's not financed through banks. Those will be agency debt (Freddie or Fannie) or CMBS. Loan brokers service those loans.

Another thing I see is those coming from single family are out of touch with today's multifamily market. They come in expecting 10 CAP on a C-class property. In San Antonio and Houston, a stabilized C-class with mild-moderate value add is trading at a "as is" 6.5 CAP. Even lower in Austin and Dallas.

I think your best bet is target off-market 10-50 unit, mom and pop ones, especially now with many tenants not paying during COVID.  

I closed a 32-unit right as COVID hit and still took it from 90% occupancy to 100% occupancy in 1 month (Apr 1 - May 1).
Found it off-market direct to "mom and pop" seller. 25% down payment. Ferddie Mac SBL loan 75% LTC, 10 year term, 3.89% interest rate with 30 year amortization and 2 years interest only payments. Step down pre-pay penalty. 1% origination fee

Post: Tear Down Costs - Houston, TX

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

@Tammie Spikes thank you for the reference.  I have sourced all my own sub-contractors from flipping houses over the years, so there's no set "builder" that I will use.  Doing so obviously allows me to build for significantly cheaper, which is why I am trying this new construction thing out on 12 townhomes first (I mainly wholesale/flip and do multifamily, so i'll be trying something new)

From what I am seeing though, from investor friends I know that build a lot of townhomes, they told me around $110-$115 per sq ft is what they are paying that includes all construction, permitting, re-plat, architectural plans, etc. Basically everything but the land. Hopefully your estimates are coming in around there.

Post: Tear Down Costs - Houston, TX

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

@Tammie Spikes what company was this? I'm curious as I'm looking to tear down a house as well to build new construction in the Northside Village area.

Post: High Cap rates in Multi-family at this time?

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

@Ayat Suleiman what markets is your client looking for? B and C no way you'll find in Atlanta for a 9 CAP, clearly shows your client is out of touch with today's market. If he is open, like others said mid-west, and even tertiary markets here in Texas, that is easily achievable in the C Class space.

Also how many units is he looking for? 4plex? 100+? I may have some deals for him in Texas if its on the smaller end

Post: Pro Athlete & New to Bigger Pockets

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

@Brynton Lemar Welcome! Feel free to reach out with any questions.  

@Thomas Johnson awesome man! Great drive! 

Let's all keep connected

Post: Experience with MF Coaching Programs

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

Hey Omar! You're on the right path looking for coaching.  It will definitely shortcut your learning curve by years and leverage relations with brokers.

All the education is the same more or less, it just depends on your target market and the ecosystem you get.  I don't have any experience with these personally but, seeing that you are located in Dallas, Brad Sumrok is the biggest one that's local to you. And as you mentioned Rod Khleif and Michael Blank have theirs.  Jake & Gino also have one as well as Vinney Chopra.

Best of luck with whichever you choose,


Adriel

Post: Corporate Relocation...Do I keep my house to rent or sell it?

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

In any other market I would tell you to sell.  But this is Austin. And a prime part of Austin that's set for more growth than any other part of Austin.  All the data points to Austin now like SF or NY in 1970. 

I know you're not supposed to hedge completely on appreciation, but if your renter can cover PITI, I would hold and wait. Austin is not like the rest of the country. Cushman and Wakefield's report of the decade and forecasting 2030 has Austin outperforming all US cities by a landslide. Tesla is rumored to be moving to Austin right now.

Any other market I would sell. Austin is a buy and don't let go.  No one ever got truly wealthy off cash flow, they got it from appreciation.

Post: How has the pandemic changing how you select tenants?

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

@Ellie Perlman Thank you! I always preached Class B. I never got the hype on Class C for the higher upkeep and transient tenant base. 10% cash on cash returns on a Class C just aren't worth it.

Post: What is the market for commercial loans right now?

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

It's not just NOI and CAP. Lenders are heavy in reserves right now and want to see 1 years worth of mortgage payments after the refi. Also many are lowering LTV because of whats going on. Keep looking around, but realize its a completely different world than 6 months ago and keep your standards realistic

Post: 1st Time Investor - Need Help Analyzing a Deal

Adriel HsuPosted
  • Investor
  • Beaumont, TX
  • Posts 171
  • Votes 277

Hi Jenny, some more numbers would help.  Have you gotten insurance quotes? Also what are the taxes?  How much downpayment? That way we can have all the numbers to help you run it accurately.

I'm going to go off assumptions:

20% down with 3.5% amortized over 30 years

Rent: $1450
Mortgage: $431
Taxes + Insurance: ~$400
Vacancy (7%): $100 (Spring is normally a solid rental market with lower vacancy)
Property Mgmt (10%): $145
Repairs & Maintenance + Capex reserves (15%) $215

About a 7% CoC return on $25k down

Ok deal, not a fan of the equity spread though in case you needed to exit. $120k vs $135k then add in those repairs you mentioned + closing costs on both ends and realtor commissions would have you at about breakeven if you had to get out. I personally would want to be all in ~$100k for a $135k house.