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All Forum Posts by: Adrian S.

Adrian S. has started 3 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: Genereal Contractors in STL?

Adrian S.Posted
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Hey everyone, 

Does anyone know a good, fairly priced general contractor in the greater St. Louis area that is experienced working with investors? I am looking for someone that would also be able to give me bids on houses before I make an offer, for a fee of course. Let me know if you know anyone!

Quote from @Andy Sabisch:
If you have private money available, you should explore those as preferable options due to terms and upfront coasts as compared to HML options.  If they are already investors, they could help you locate / assess deals as well which is a plus as they will want you to be successful to help them be successful.  

Getting your financing options in place before you find a deal is always a better route to take.  When we were starting out we had a killer deal (two duplexes that were positive from day 1) but it took us a few days to get the financing and guess what, an investor that did not have that problem picked them up and is making a great profit on them.  You are heading in the right direction to get the financing options laid out and then find the deal so you can pull the trigger for the right one.

As far as HML options be sure you get all the details before signing anything . . interest rate, payment terms, what if you need to extend, points up front, etc.  -  comparing one to another with ALL of the details is the only way to make an informed decison.

Good luck.

Thanks for the reply Andy, 

That all makes sense, that's what I was wondering. Everyone keeps telling me that if I find a deal the money will come, and I get it. But I don't want to waste other people's time and would definitely feel a lot more confident overall if I knew that the money was there. 

I think I am going to talk to my uncles first and see what they think. If that doesn't pan out for some reason I would definitely be sure to run ALL the numbers accurately with hard money and make sure that everything goes to plan. I wouldn't enter into anything with that unless the deal has lots of margin. 

Quote from @Kristine Ann:

You're not going to want here this, but this is what I recommend.  I would focus on consistent, steady income and building an amazing credit history. Maybe get some hands on experience painting or staging.

Find a w2 job that you don't hate and you can keep for years.  When you are working steadily at the same place for more than two years, you are seen as stable and responsible and a better candidate for loans in the future.  I made pizzas on Friday and Saturday nights all through college and it didn't even feel like work.

I would also sign up for one (and only one) credit card, not use it that much, and make sure you pay it off every month.  Keep this credit card forever, as the longer you have an open account, the better your credit score is.

In real estate, you are better off "house hacking" by renting a large apartment or house and renting out your extra rooms to roommates. 

You can also learn how to paint by painting rooms in your parent's house.  Painting houses a neutral color is the easiest and least expensive way to get houses rented or sold.  It is a skill that is learned through practice, though. Spackling, caulking and painting are all important skills if you are planning on owning property in the future.  

I would highly advised from borrowing from your uncles until you are much farther along in the process.  If you borrow from them early on and mess up, you won't be able to tap them as a resource when you are more experienced.

 Hey Kristine, 

Thanks for the reply, I totally understand where you are coming from. All freshmen at WashU have to stay on the dorms for the first year, but after my first year my plan was to move off campus and put 3.5% down on small multifamily (2-4 units) and rent it out to the other students. I also have no debt and I am on a full ride for school. Until then, my initial plan was to try and grow my capital (20k from a car flipping business) and get experience now so I can later focus more on cash flow down the line. 

I have a a decent amount of construction experience as well. My friends dad has a construction company and I used to work on jobs with them: building patios, painting, putting drywall up etc. I can also consult that friend who does construction full time now. I am not too worried about the basic lipstick rehabbing but I will definitely need to hire contractors for the more complicated repairs: plumbing, electric, roofing etc. 

I also had a W2 job as a car wash "team leader" for a where I made about 2k/month. It was tipped pay though so it was not super consistent, but it usually averaged out to about 20/hr. Also as far as credit goes, I have been on authorized user on one of my parents card for 2 years, and I got my own as soon as I turned 18 so im 760+.

I am looking for a a SFH ranging from 100k-250k in need of light to moderate repairs. It's hard to come up with specific criteria before seeing how much I would be approved for.

Hello everyone,

I am a new real estate investor and WashU student (18) from St. Louis MO. I am looking to do my first house flip. I am trying to figure out the best way to fund the deal. I have not found a deal yet, I am trying to figure out how to fund the deal before I start looking. Also, I recently got my real estate license and am going to start my career as an agent next week. I don't think I qualify for any conventional or FHA loans as I don't have long enough income history. But hopefully after working as an agent for 2 years I can qualify for one of those.

I have some uncles that are commercial real estate investors and could possibly privately fund the deal. That seems like my best option as of now, but it seems hard to ask them for funding before I even have a deal or any experience.  

The other option is hard money, how good of an idea is using hard money for my first deal? I think it could work as long as I run all the numbers right and the deal is good. 

If anyone has any advice on what the best approach would be it would be greatly appreciated. 

Quote from @Dan Sheeks:

My advice would be to read the Bigger Pockets’ book First to a Million (and the workbook). It’s written for young aspiring investors just like you.


 Thanks for the reply Dan. I am currently reading "The Millionaire Real Estate Investor". I will definitely have to order First to a Million after I finish. 

Quote from @Shawn Parsh:

Adrian,

  You are off to a good start by asking those who have gone before you. I would consume as much information about real estate investing as I could through books, podcast, and others like here on BP. There are many ways to invest in real estate so you will have to find what you enjoy. 

One route may be for you to find a lease option property that needs cosmetic repairs. In your situation maybe you could find one close to WashU that you could live in and rent the extra rooms out to other college students. Work on the property with your cash flow and money from your part time job to increase the value. Then when you have built some equity in the property and established enough credit buy it for the agreed upon price. 

I would also look into real estate investing clubs in your area and start attending their meetings. Most real estate investors are more than willing to help new investors. You can learn a lot about investing in real estate without paying for classes or professional mentor programs. Let me know if I can be of any help. 

 Thanks for the prompt reply Shawn. I will definitely look into house hacking and the idea of renting a property out to some of my college friends. I will definitely reach out when I have more questions!

Hello! I am currently 17 and am looking for some advice or knowledge pertaining to investment strategies. I live in St. Louis MO with my parents currently and will be going to WashU in STL next fall (full ride). I have a part-time job and about $20-23/hr (tipped pay) and work 25-30 hrs a week making about  about 2-2.5k a month. I have no debt, and very few monthly expenses since I still live with my parents. I can save most of my income and have learned to budget pretty well. I have $16k from a car flipping business and am looking to use it to get into the industry. I plan to intentionally and carefully build my credit score as fast as possible as soon as I turn 18. I was wondering what would be the best way to learn as much as possible about the industry, whether its getting my real estate license and working as a realtor or being an assistant in some real estate office. Also I was wondering if any of you had some advice or start up strategies to avoid or investigate. I turn 18 soon, which makes me legally able to do a lot more under my name. Any help would be greatly appreciated!