Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Adrian Lammersdorf-Scioll

Adrian Lammersdorf-Scioll has started 13 posts and replied 130 times.

Post: What are you doing to find deals?

Adrian Lammersdorf-SciollPosted
  • Realtor
  • Florida
  • Posts 139
  • Votes 64
Quote from @Karolina Powell:

On top of working with wholesalers, I make offers on everything on the MLS that interests me, not worrying about asking price. Last year it seemed to work great and I picked up several properties for a steal. This year I have yet to close a deal and have lost a few deals over 10K. I'm hoping to pick up a few once they've sat on the MLS for longer.


That's a really good one! I've been doing that a bit, but no luck on anything yet. Do you utilize and software to generate the offers quicker, or any AI tools? I've seen an LOI blaster from Pace Morby, but haven't tried it, it was pricey. I think this is a very underutilized strategy in this type of market

Post: Handyman near Macon GA

Adrian Lammersdorf-SciollPosted
  • Realtor
  • Florida
  • Posts 139
  • Votes 64

Check out Taskrabbit, or Thumbtack.  The ones with really good reviews, and a high amount of reviews usually cost a little more, but do a good job.  I haven't used it personally myself, but have heard good things, and I'm sure you can use it in your area.

Post: Internet and Utilities for Mid-Term Rentals

Adrian Lammersdorf-SciollPosted
  • Realtor
  • Florida
  • Posts 139
  • Votes 64

I also do it so that it covers everything.  It makes it easier when you put things into sites like Air BnB and whatnot.

Post: What are you doing to find deals?

Adrian Lammersdorf-SciollPosted
  • Realtor
  • Florida
  • Posts 139
  • Votes 64
Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Adrian Lammersdorf-Scioll expand your mind!

Your sphere doesn't know ANY older people or have relatives that own homes?

Again, you do NOT ask them for their business, you ask them for referrals with, "Who do you know that...".

Also, how many times did you contact your sphere last year?

FYI - with all the social media choices, all you have to do is make a plan to post the same message across numerous platforms.
- You can even recycle the messages annually or quarterly!

Again, expand your mind and break your internal idea limitations!


 I guess easier said than done haha.  I feel just as uncomfortable cold calling as I do asking someone to have me talk to their friend that owns a house.

Post: What are you doing to find deals?

Adrian Lammersdorf-SciollPosted
  • Realtor
  • Florida
  • Posts 139
  • Votes 64
Quote from @Amanda Smith:

Adrian, I appreciate your candidness and willingness to try new strategies. I've seen firsthand how a skilled VA can really help overcome the hurdles of cold calling. However, the key is partnering with a professional agency that not only supplies experienced VAs but also uses robust systems—like well-known CRMs—to track calls, monitor lead quality, and analyze performance metrics.

Keep in mind that not every VA agency is created equal. It might be worth testing a few until you find the one that best fits your style and business model. Once you land the right partner, the support can make a big difference in scaling your outreach while allowing you to focus on closing deals and nurturing your network.

Good luck refining your strategy!
@Adrian Lammersdorf-Scioll


Yeah I've heard great things about start with virtual, and some other ones, but I'm currently using my brokers VA, and gohighlevel for our CRM

Post: What are you doing to find deals?

Adrian Lammersdorf-SciollPosted
  • Realtor
  • Florida
  • Posts 139
  • Votes 64
Quote from @Jeff Roth:

Hi Adrian in Florida-

I haven't seen the sun in three months here in Michigan. :) Jealous!

You have been investing for about three years but are finding it more difficult to find deals that pencil.

I understand.

Here is what I find works for sourcing deals:

1. There are markets in Michigan where deals still pencil thankfully.

2. Property managers can be great sources for deals.

3. I network with other investor friendly Realtors in the markets I work in to help source deals.

4. Foundation repair salespeople are great sources to find deals. Offer them a bird dog fee for finding the deals.

5. Other potential bird dogs are handymen, people who clean out houses, and various house related contractors.

To Your Success!


 Great feedback, if you don't mind me asking you, how are you finding multiple handymen/foundation repair salespeople to network with?

Post: What are you doing to find deals?

Adrian Lammersdorf-SciollPosted
  • Realtor
  • Florida
  • Posts 139
  • Votes 64
Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Adrian Lammersdorf-Scioll

Why does everyone want to chase strangers – and ignore their own personal network?

Which do you think will be more competitive, buying from wholesalers or your own referrals?

Per this NY Times article, the average American knows around 600 people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/science/the-average-american-knows-how-many-people.html#:~:text=The%20average%20American%20knows%20about,do%20you%20know%20named%20Kevin%3F

Per the US Census Bureau, the average American moves 11.7 time in their life, which based upon an approximate lifespan of 84 years, works out to be about every 7 years.
https://www.census.gov/topics/population/migration/guidance/calculating-migration-expectancy.html#:~:text=Using%202007%20ACS%20data%2C%20it,one%20move%20per%20single%20year

So, if the average American knows 600 people and they each move about every 7 years, that means that the average American knows around 85 people that move in any given year.

How many of those moves do you want to be involved in?

To maximize the number of transactions you’re involved in you will need to:

  • Be Top of Mind when they think about moving - which requires consistent reminders.
  • Be seen as an Expert – which requires a consistent message and Evidence of Success stories
  • Gain their Trust – which requires communicating integrity

So, start out by listing everyone you know in an Excel spreadsheet.

Why Excel? Because later, you can easily use it as your mailing list! Create columns for Name, Street Address, City, State, Zip and then contact info: Last Contact, Relationship, Status, Email & Phone.

IMPORTANT: do NOT ask people for THEIR business, ask for referrals! Why? Because they will get defensive if they feel you are pressuring them. Remember, they can always refer themselves😊

Now, make it a goal to call at least 5-10 of these people EVERY day and ask a MAX OF THREE off the list below of who do they know that:

  • Just inherited a home
  • Had a loved one pass away
  • Is behind on their mortgage or tax payments
  • Has a relative that can’t take care of their house anymore
  • Has a house they’re having trouble selling
  • Is facing bankruptcy
  • Knows a probate attorney
  • Knows a bankruptcy attorney
  • etc

Why only three off the list per contact? Because on average, we can only remember three things at a time. If you try to go over the whole list, you’ll lose the attention of an average person and they won’t remember anything!

It should only take you about a month or two to contact everyone on your list and then the tough part – you start all over again.

Why the repetition? Because it takes repetition for people to remember things and you have to be top-of-mind when they encounter a potential client for you!

Have you ever been to McDonalds? Of course you have! So, why is McDonalds still spending billions on advertising?

One more tip – people remember stories that trigger their emotions. So, tell a story of how you (or a fellow wholesaler) helped a seller out with their challenge(s). Change your story each month as different stories will resonate with different people AND use each story to emphasize one of your “who do you know…” questions.

As you start closing deals, you will need to reinvest your profits into mailing lists and other scalable activities to grow your business.

One last thing – we recommended you create a Status column on your spreadsheet, now we’ll explain why. If you find someone that seems to know a lot of people needing your services, wouldn’t it make sense to focus more resources on them? Conversely, you will run into people on your list that just seem to be a waste of time, so you’ll want to avoid them. So, create status codes for both of these and a few in-between codes to help you work smarter, not harder.


 Great feedback, but I don't just target strangers I reach out to my sphere of influence as well.  I agree it is the best leads you can get.  As far as looking out for those deals, I'm fairly young and majority of my sphere do not own homes, or are dealing with a lot of the things you mentioned, but agreed they are all great resources.

Post: What are you doing to find deals?

Adrian Lammersdorf-SciollPosted
  • Realtor
  • Florida
  • Posts 139
  • Votes 64
Quote from @David Atis:

Definitely get where you're coming from! Cold calling can be brutal at first but it's awesome that you're using a VA to keep things moving. If you ever decide to get back into yourself, once you get a few wins the confidence builds.

The strategies I mentioned are what my clients are using for their own deals. The wholesale relationships would be my go to for when I start building my own portfolio soon. I focus more on connecting with investors who already have deals in the pipeline or are looking for deals but need funding for their deals. 

I've seen my investor clients keep text campaigns pretty targeted as they prefer quality over quantity. So they mainly reach out to motivated leads who’ve shown interest or fit their criteria. Haven’t personally seen anyone crush it with google ads much yet, but I've heard in passing that others have had some success with ppc, but not always guaranteed. Have you tried ppc or are you focusing mainly on batch leads and the va for now?"


Oh I still cold call from time to time, I'm just not that great at it, and only do it once a month. Investors/Wholesalers are great, that is agreed, and is how I bought my duplex. With the text campaign my question is are you having them opt in, or just finding a list of distressed owners and texting them directly? I knew a couple people that did well with google ads, although have not asked them as of late. I have not tried PPC yet, and am focusing on the VA, and batch leads which I just started with.

Quote from @Josh Jung:

surprised you haven't heard of RBP. it's like a mix of services you can offer to your tenants like renters insurance, virtual concierge, etc


 So the property manager/landlord pays for their renters insurance, and filters?  I'm surprised I haven't heard of it either.

Quote from @Rene Hosman:

@Sami Gren Happy to help! What if any property management software are you using right now? And are you using that software to collect rent? 

For example I use RentRedi and offer that as one of the options for my tenants to pay rent. Do you offer anything like that currently? 


 I second this, I use rentredi for my personal properties and it makes life super easy.  They can pay for the credit boost as well