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All Forum Posts by: Adolphus Fletcher

Adolphus Fletcher has started 8 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: Tile Company fees in PA

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Quote from @Alan Asriants:
Quote from @Adolphus Fletcher:
Quote from @Alan Asriants:
Quote from @Stuart Udis:

The actual insurance premiums in PA are regulated by the state with some exceptions (most notably approved attorneys). Recording fees are going to be set by the city/municipality. All that's left is deed prep, notary fees and other misc. fees which fluctuate very minimally. I never hear of anyone going to certain title companies over others because of fees, its generally service based decision making. 


 You can always call up the title company beforehand to get an idea if they charge any sort of settlement, recording, doc prep, etc fees.

As for the Seller side, the buyer chooses the title company 95% of the time, unless seller just recommends one. Seller really shouldnt be paying any fees to title company unless they did their conveyancing (ordering U&O, tax and sewer certs etc.). They sometimes charge the seller notary and doc prep fees - especially if you don't plan on attending settlement and do a deed package. And we are talking about $50-200 bucks


 Thanks for the example break down. What does U&O mean?


 Use and Occupancy - In the city of phila its called an L&I Cert (License and Inspections) 

Its just a cert you buy online for 130 bucks that discloses any violations


 That will definitely come in handy.

Quote from @Don Konipol:

@patrick 

@Patrick Roberts "It's rare to a get a nonrecourse DSCR mortgage without approx 50% down"

That’s been my experience.  On our syndicated properties we have 2 bank/lenders that issue non recourse loans to us as long as we have 50% equity in the deal. 

I am curious about the syndication, are they affordable housing properties? How much loan to-value do they offer or do they give you the full amount when you have 50% equity? 
Quote from @V.G Jason:

We avoid PG by putting 50-80% down for DSCRs. We've negotiated some in a portfolio where a certain house will be at 25-30%, maybe even as high as a 35% but the loan is less concentrated in houses with less of a downpayment(10% needed for a STR).

This takes a relationship with the lender, though. They also required X amount of reserves always to be shown available, which was actually less than what I earmarked so I am okay with it. We don't have a PG for any of our DSCRs, and tax wise have it completely separate from personal. That's why we have our LLCs and the set up we do-- complete separation.


Very interested in setting up the LLCs properly to do this. Are you saying your lender allows you to give 10% down for an STR and up to 35% on certain properties because of your relationship with the lender?

Quote from @Rob Beeman:

@Adolphus Fletcher Like others have mentioned, gaining a non-recourse loan is a challenge unless in some cases where the loan is a commercial style loan of $5MM+ and the borrowing entity has strong income & assets to satisfy the lender's concern tied to the guarantee of the loan. However, if you choose lenders that originate the loan (purchase/rehab/DCSR) to the LLC (entity) and do NOT report to the credit bureaus then as long as you do not default on a loan, the odds are slim that your borrowing activity will appear on personal credit. Just make certain to pay as agreed and exit as planned.


 I'd be interested to find a list of lenders that don't report. I haven't heard of such yet. 

Post: Tile Company fees in PA

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Quote from @Alan Asriants:
Quote from @Stuart Udis:

The actual insurance premiums in PA are regulated by the state with some exceptions (most notably approved attorneys). Recording fees are going to be set by the city/municipality. All that's left is deed prep, notary fees and other misc. fees which fluctuate very minimally. I never hear of anyone going to certain title companies over others because of fees, its generally service based decision making. 


 You can always call up the title company beforehand to get an idea if they charge any sort of settlement, recording, doc prep, etc fees.

As for the Seller side, the buyer chooses the title company 95% of the time, unless seller just recommends one. Seller really shouldnt be paying any fees to title company unless they did their conveyancing (ordering U&O, tax and sewer certs etc.). They sometimes charge the seller notary and doc prep fees - especially if you don't plan on attending settlement and do a deed package. And we are talking about $50-200 bucks


 Thanks for the example break down. What does U&O mean?

Post: Personal Vs Business HELOC

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Quote from @Jason Taken:

Hi there! Great thinking about using a HELOC to help grow your investment portfolio. It's definitely an outside-the-box idea to transfer the property to an LLC before applying for the HELOC.

If you move the property to an LLC, lenders might see the transfer as a red flag. They may feel unsure about giving a HELOC right after the property's been moved. Many lenders see recent transfers as a risk, which could affect your terms or lead to a denial.

Regarding taxes, changing the property's ownership can have some effects. You might face transfer taxes or reset your property's tax basis. This means new taxes you didn't have before. It's a good idea to talk to a tax professional about this part.

Using an LLC can help build business credit over time, but make sure the immediate needs and potential costs are worth it. Sometimes, keeping things simple is better than making moves that are more complicated.


 Thanks for the advice much appreciated. 

Post: Any experience getting property rezoned in Philly?

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Quote from @Eric Greenberg:

I agree. You are looking to buy a vacant RSA5 lot by Temple and turn it into a multifamily… thats a big big lift. 

I would first start by talking to folks in the Temple area first. The last few folks I talked to in that arena were trying to sell as it was becoming iver saturated. Maybe that has changed but I would do alot of due diligence first.

If you like the numbers and situation, then look into acquiring a building that maybe needs some work rather than new construction that needs a variance. 


 Thanks for the feedback. I have noticed some as-is transactions recently in the area as well. For the lot I have under contract, I figured it could set it apart for the area. But I have been mulling over if it's worth the trouble. In any case, I feel like it would be a good experience to try especially as this seller isn't in much of a rush to sell anyway but I also want to give the most value I can.

Post: Tile Company fees in PA

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@John Clark

That makes the most sense. 

Post: Personal Vs Business HELOC

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I'm going to preface this by saying I tend to think outside of the box unnecessarily. In this particular case, I have a property I'd like to get a HELOC on to then buy another property. I am wondering however if I should transfer the asset to my new LLC and then apply for a HELOC to get a head start on building business credit. For the experts out there, how do you think this would impact the terms? Would I get denied because of the recent transfer or would the asset value alone be enough? What are the potential tax implications ups and downs of transferring the residential property to business ownership and then acquiring debt on it? Please let me know if all of this is unnecessary or a valid strategy for building strong business credit.

Let's say I already formed a new LLC that would be designated for REI. How do I get business credit strong enough to avoid having to personally guarantor commercial or residential mortgages through my business? Is that unavoidable in the beginning? Does it matter if it is an LLC or S-Corp? When I talk to loan officers they say a DSCR loan would be ideal for even a newer LLC because it's more about the numbers on the deal as long as you have the cash for the average 20% and whatever points down. My only reservation is the higher interest rates on these particular loan products vs regular residential mortgages. Let me know if I'm looking at this all wrong or what you'd suggest.