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All Forum Posts by: Adiel Gorel

Adiel Gorel has started 7 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: ICG Free 1-Day Online LIVE Expo – Saturday, Dec 4, 2021

Adiel Gorel
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30

Dear investors,
You're invited to our quarterly free online expo! This event is designed for both new and experienced investors. We'll discuss the best markets and types of investments in the U.S. RIGHT NOW, backed by the latest data. Read below for more information, and click here to sign up: https://icgre.com/events/icg-real-estate-1-day-online-live-expo-saturday-dec-4-2021

Here’s what the event will cover:

Lenders:

How to get great loans, for those with under 10 properties, over 10 (and therefore ineligible for Fannie Mae loans), and those just starting out!

Extensive Q&A:

We always dedicate a generous amount of time for Q&A with our roaming team of market experts, and specialist expert speakers, as well as Adiel. This event is a fantastic opportunity for learning from market teams, lenders, and industry experts.

Markets:

Teams from the most relevant markets will present their recommendations, updates, and forecasts. One-on-one discussions will be available on individual interests and needs.
As always, our #1 goal is to help guide investors in the right direction and help you become financially free, as soon as possible! There’s no greater investment in the world than ensuring that you and your family have a bright, prosperous future.

Sign up for free here: https://icgre.com/events/icg-real-estate-1-day-online-live-expo-saturday-dec-4-2021

We can't wait to see you there!

- Adiel Gorel, Real Estate Investor and CEO of ICG Real Estate

Post: ICG 1-Day Online LIVE Expo – Saturday, 11th of September, 2021

Adiel Gorel
Pro Member
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30

Dear investors,

You're invited to our quarterly virtual expo!  This expo is designed for new and experienced investors alike.  We'll discuss the best markets in the U.S. to invest in RIGHT NOW, backed by data.  Read below for more information, and click the link to sign up!

Lenders:

Great loans for those with under 10 properties, over 10, and those just starting out.

Networking and Q&A:

We always dedicate a generous amount of time for networking and an interactive Q & A with our roaming team of experts, speakers, and other like-minded investors. Don’t miss out on your chance to participate in this critical expo. It sells out every quarter we offer it! The event is a fantastic opportunity for learning from other like-minded investors.

Markets:

Teams from the most interesting and relevant markets will be present with real estate deals ready to move, and updates and forecasts will be discussed. One-on-one discussions will be available on individual interests and needs.

We can't wait to see you there!

- Adiel Gorel, Investor and CEO of ICG Real Estate

Post: ICG Real Estate 1-Day Online LIVE Expo – Saturday, May 15, 2021

Adiel Gorel
Pro Member
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30
In ICG’s 1-day expo, learn how to invest smarter, increase your profit margin every year, and build a future of financial freedom.

We always dedicate a generous amount of time for networking and an interactive Q & A with our team of experts, speakers, and other like-minded investors.

This event is free, but space is limited!

The only promotion this event will contain is a quick overview of what ICG does, and a mention of my new book, “Remote Control Retirement Riches” which is coming out this week! Most of our time will be dedicated to discussing how to improve and implement the best investment strategies, for new and experienced investors alike. The market teams from the best relevant markets in the US will be presenting. They will be taking about the economy in their specific market, as well as availability of investment properties for the investor.

The expo will take place on May 15, from 10am to 2pm PST.

Click the link to get your free ticket, and start changing your future today.

https://icgre.com/events/icg-real-estate-1-day-online-live-expo-saturday-may-15-2021

Post: Will COVID-19 Cause a Recession?

Adiel Gorel
Pro Member
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30

As we all observe and fear the Coronavirus, we see many cities under “shelter-at-home” restrictions, and many “non-essential” businesses closing. Then on the other hand, the Fed lowered rates almost to zero, and mortgage rates, after a short spike, are starting to settle down near the lowest point ever. Some people fear a recession is likely to follow, and if we remember the recession of 2008, I think it’s quite possible. That depends, of course, on the length of the lock-down.

If a recession does occur, let’s point out some of the differences between the recession of 2008 and the next recession, if it hits.

Before the 2008 recession happened, there was a major boom in many states. Home prices in states like Arizona, Nevada and Florida went through the roof. The media was shouting “It’s a bubble! It has to burst!” Prices of homes in Phoenix, for example, nearly doubled from the beginning of 2004 till the middle of 2006. Not all states participated in the party, for example, Texas and Oklahoma have not gone up very much during that time.

When the 2008 recession hit, the markets that went down precipitously were, of course, the exact markets that had participated in the 2004-2006 boom. Places in Arizona, Nevada, Florida, and other states. Prices tanked and crashed quite a bit. However not across the board, states like Texas and Oklahoma did not go down very much during the recession of 2008.

By contrast, at the present time, especially in affordable markets like Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Baton Rouge, Central Florida, parts of Atlanta, Raleigh and others, there are currently no price bubbles. No major boom has happened, Thus the likelihood of a major price crash in such markets is much slimmer than the markets which crashed in the 2008 recession. There are very high priced markets now, the expensive markets in San Francisco, for example (which has already started going down in price last year). In such markets, there may be a stronger effect on prices. Also, when you invest in a brand new home in a good area in Oklahoma and pay $170,000. You are buying the home not much over the basic construction and land cost. Again, the probability of an “intrinsic value” home like this going down much is small. By contrast, a $2M home in San Francisco, which cost $900K to build, has a lot of “air” in the price, with a higher likelihood of prices going down in San Francisco.

The recession of 2008 was created by housing. Lenders released all limits, and loans were made to virtually anyone that was human, almost regardless of credit or ability to pay. Some loans were up to 125% of the value of the house. This bad debt, called “sub-prime”, was then packaged among other debt, and amazingly, the credit agency gave these packages high ratings, as if it was a quality debt product. Then these faulty packages sold on Wall Street, and financial wizards found way to leverage them enormously. Once defaults on the bad loans started to hit, the entire structure unraveled.

By contrast, at the present we are still under the Dodd-Frank Act, which was drafted after the 2008 recession. Borrowing is now much harder and lengthier than it was before the 2008 recession. Even borrowers with great credit are finding the current loan processes frustrating. The amount of sub-prime loans is minuscule relative the period preceding the 2008 recession, and steps were taken to make the abuses with rating agencies be much harder to repeat. Thus the next recession is likely not to be caused by bad loans. It is clear that if another recession comes, its effects on rental home investing will be quite different than the recession of 2008.

I believe that the best way to invest in real estate is to buy brand new homes, in affordable large metropolitan areas, where the rent numbers match well with prices. Then finance the homes with a fixed-rate loan. To the best of my knowledge long term fixed rate loans like we get here in the US don’t exist elsewhere. The monthly payment and the mortgage balance never change with the cost of living, while everything else does. That means inflation constantly erodes the true buying buyer of your debt, making your debt ever smaller in real dollars.

For these kinds of homes, purchased anywhere from $150K to $250K, I believe the effects of the next recession will be minimal. Rates are very low, however, so fixed rate loans will retain these great rates forever.

The act of buying good rental homes in large metro areas and holding them as rental for the long term, where the loan erodes, is a future-changer. It does not change your future instantly or even within a short time, but over the long term, this strategy is a powerful future changer. I have seen people retire well, send kids to college, and look much stronger financially thanks to these simple yet powerful investments.

Since these investments show their power over the long term, and since the interest rates are so favorable now, and since a possible impending recession is unlikely to have effects on prices like the 2008 recession, I believe this would be a good time to invest.

As an extra “bonus”, the virus fear creates more flexibility with sellers, including builders, and the ability to negotiate better prices.

I would be happy to discuss it with anyone who may wish to inquire further.

Post: New to this, Im 22 I have around 50 grand, how to make profits

Adiel Gorel
Pro Member
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30

The limit for FNMA is 10. If you are married and your spouse can qualify separately, it goes to 20. After that you can still get quite a few 30-year fixed rate loans, just not under the FNMA umbrella. One of my investors just closed on home number 50. He got 20 w FNMA (w his wife), then 30 from another lender - all 30 years fixed.

I believe you said you are starting out. I would at first got to the FNMA limit, as these are the best financial gifts you can get, and no one in the US seems to even think about it.

I would watch out for multi units. Deep expertise is needed for the due diligence (proformas are wishful thinking usually). Sweet spot for multi units for economies of scale is between 150-300 units. That's a multi million dollar deal. 

Buying small multi units out of state has no economies of scale and being very careful is the watchword.  

The true multi unit experts I know (full timers, decades of experience etc), are mostly sitting out of the market now, as too much money is chasing multi units and it is a high entry point.

I'd be happy to talk if you'd like, just email us at  and my staff can set up a call if you wish. Lots to say. Thx, Adiel 

Post: New to this, Im 22 I have around 50 grand, how to make profits

Adiel Gorel
Pro Member
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30

@Cody L. Hi Cody, I think I answered privately. Not an expert on this system and what shows publicly, I guess. Our company started with my own need for investments. People asked for helped only after I owned quite a few properties. At this point, despite my investors having over 10,000 properties, with some of them quite big, I own more than any of our investors. I like SFH due to the incomprehensible 30-year fixed rate loan (only country in the world you get a loan where neither the monthly payment nor the loan balance EVER keeps up with the cost of living). Needless to say FNMA limits were long passed, so at this stage it's getting decent loans. Can chat more, You may have caught muy PBS Special during the past year. Will be good to watch. Thanks, Adiel

Post: New to this, Im 22 I have around 50 grand, how to make profits

Adiel Gorel
Pro Member
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30

@Cody L. Hi Cody, I think I answered privately. Not an expert on this system and what shows publicly, I guess. Our company started with my own need for investments. People asked for helped only after I owned quite a few properties. At this point, despite my investors having over 10,000 properties, with some of them quite big, I own more than any of our investors. I like SFH's due to the incomprehensible 30-year fixed rate loan (only country in the world you get a loan where neither the monthly payment nor the loan balance EVER keeps up with the cost of living). Needless to say FNMA limits were long passed, so at this stage it's getting decent loans. Can chat more, You may have caught my PBS Special during the past year. Will be good to watch. Thanks, Adiel

Post: New to this, Im 22 I have around 50 grand, how to make profits

Adiel Gorel
Pro Member
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30

Cody, I encourage you to come to my event and see for yourself May 18th. Yes, of course, I put my money where my mouth is. I have a great reputation - not for quick rich schemes, that is NEVER the case. And that is not what I offer. It is about buy and hold. It is about process. It has worked for hundreds of people. And yes, I own hundreds of properties myself. I have worked my own process and held people's hand through theirs. And I agree with other posts here that it is a good idea to mix it up. 

Post: Quarterly ICG Real Estate 1-Day Expo - now in it's 26th year

Adiel Gorel
Pro Member
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30

Expert Guest Speaker Breakout for the ICG Real Estate 1-Day Expo:

Brett Lytle, Esq., Partner, McDowall-Cotter – will discuss entities, protecting our assets, what do to, mistakes to avoid and how to plan

Mary Jo Lafaye of Retirement Funding Solutions – will talk to us about Home Equity Conversion Mortgage (HECM) and jumbo reverse mortgages, retirement funding solutions and more

Weiming Peng, of Asset Exchange Company – will teach us about asset exchanges-1031 exchanges, and reverse exchanges discussed in detail

Where and When:

South San Francisco Conference Center, 255 South Airport Blvd., S. San Francisco, CA 94080 – conveniently located near SFO Airport, Saturday, May 19, 2019, 10 am to 6:30 pm.

As always you can expect:

Lenders:

Great loans for those with under 10 properties, over 10, and those just starting out.

Networking and Q&A:

We always dedicate a generous amount of time for networking and an interactive Q & A with our roaming team of experts, speakers, and other like-minded investors. Don’t miss out on your chance to participate in this critical expo. It sells out every quarter we offer it! The event is a fantastic opportunity for learning from other like-minded investors.

Markets:

Teams from the most interesting and relevant markets will be present with real estate deals ready to move, and updates and forecasts will be discussed. One-on-one discussions will be available on individual interests and needs.

Price: $35/per person

Lunch is not included.

Plenty of free parking available.

REGISTER HERE (ICGRE.COM/UPCOMING-EVENTS)

Post: Quarterly ICG Real Estate 1-Day Expo - now in it's 26th year

Adiel Gorel
Pro Member
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Rafael, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 30

Expert Guest Speaker Breakout for the ICG Real Estate 1-Day Expo:

Brett Lytle, Esq., Partner, McDowall-Cotter – will discuss entities, protecting our assets, what do to, mistakes to avoid and how to plan

Mary Jo Lafaye of Retirement Funding Solutions – will talk to us about Home Equity Conversion Mortgage (HECM) and jumbo reverse mortgages, retirement funding solutions and more

Weiming Peng, of Asset Exchange Company – will teach us about asset exchanges-1031 exchanges, and reverse exchanges discussed in detail

Where and When:

South San Francisco Conference Center, 255 South Airport Blvd., S. San Francisco, CA 94080 – conveniently located near SFO Airport, Saturday, May 19, 2019, 10 am to 6:30 pm.

As always you can expect:

Lenders:

Great loans for those with under 10 properties, over 10, and those just starting out.

Networking and Q&A:

We always dedicate a generous amount of time for networking and an interactive Q & A with our roaming team of experts, speakers, and other like-minded investors. Don’t miss out on your chance to participate in this critical expo. It sells out every quarter we offer it! The event is a fantastic opportunity for learning from other like-minded investors.

Markets:

Teams from the most interesting and relevant markets will be present with real estate deals ready to move, and updates and forecasts will be discussed. One-on-one discussions will be available on individual interests and needs.

Price: $35/per person

Lunch is not included.

Plenty of free parking available.