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All Forum Posts by: Oloyede Ade Fatogun

Oloyede Ade Fatogun has started 2 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: Anyone Successfully invesing in Detroit

Oloyede Ade FatogunPosted
  • Developer
  • Hamilton, Ontario
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

@Marisa R. Great write up and advice.

Post: What demographic is buying and moving to Detroit?

Oloyede Ade FatogunPosted
  • Developer
  • Hamilton, Ontario
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Jamiel Strickland:

@Oloyede Ade Fatogun,

I dont have specific numbers or data but using the eye test you see a lot of younger people of all backrounds moving back to the city. Quicken Loans is really fueling the city and everyone is buying houses from the average person looking to move back to Detroit or flippers trying to get it while its still hot.

 Thanks Jamiel, itès really hard to find concrete data on this other than articles with brief references.

Post: Investing in Detroit

Oloyede Ade FatogunPosted
  • Developer
  • Hamilton, Ontario
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Alex K.:

@Tiffany Perry I agree with you it is neighborhood by neighborhood in Detroit. Just need to know where to Buy. Properties in Desirable neighborhoods usually don’t last too long. If you were to flip that Morningside house in today’s date you wouldn’t have a problem.

The city is making substantial progress week by week month by month and year by year.

As far as contractors and subcontractors etc. I have somewhat of an advantage being a builder/ General Contractor prior to getting into real estate.

As far as The lead based paint I usually have one of my subcontractors that has his certification do the scraping and skim coating and prImer just to be on the safe sIde. I’m considering just getting my cert for it as well. Its only like 32 hours but have been procrastinating. 😑

A wise man once also told me that senior citizens are not that bad of tenants because there’s no drama in their life anymore. They take care of their things and more than likely will not be moving and jumping around from property to property which made sense to me.

I personally don’t have any seniors as tenants myself but wouldn’t mind taking a 50-75 dollar cut on the rent to have a piece of mind.

I also have loan officers will give you a loan on your Detroit property all day no problem.

 Are you still contracting now?

Post: Investing in Detroit

Oloyede Ade FatogunPosted
  • Developer
  • Hamilton, Ontario
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Tiffany Perry:

@Alex Detroit

I agree that detroit is very much a block by block city. You need to know the neighborhoods well. I was able to consistently rent out a townhouse in midtown for several years to high quality tenants who could afford to pay on the higher end. If you want upscale tenants aim for midtown, downtown and cork town. It would typically take me a week to release the unit once I listed it. My property manager was mbs property Mgmt based In Southfield and they were good.

Morningside, Sherwood Forest, east English village and rose dale park are other good neighborhoods.

I owned a home in morningside that was vacant for over a year while I tried to sell, unsuccessfully, and then rehab it. I only had one attempted break in. The perp threw a rock in the window. I did have a security alarm though. Breakins wouldn’t be my concern. Once I marketed the property for rent it took 3-4 wks to get it leased but I was going on the higher side for rent.

I wouldn’t even think of trying to flip in detroit b/c buyers can’t get mortgages. I read an article that a little over 1000 mortgages were originated in 2018- an abysmally small number.

cons:

I agree with the other poster who said it’s hard to find contractors and even landscapers who will do work in the city.

Another challenge is that the city passed an ordinance requiring landlords to complete lead remediation. The ordinance even went as far as giving tenants the right to put their rent money in escrow with the court if their landlord didn’t get the property remediate. Then on top of that the city sent out workers to homes in the city alerting tenants of their rights under the ordinance. This ordinance is currently being challenged in court but it sent a signal to me that the city doesn’t want small business landlords. For these reasons I’m hesitant to do more deals in detroit.

Pros: lots of cheaper properties to buy.

City is projected to become more rental occupied over time so more people to rent to. However the tenant base is projected to become older- think more senior citizens on a fixed income. This will limit potential rent increases.

 So you dont think there are margins to make in fixing and flipping at all?

Aren't people able to get mortgages over a certain amount?

Post: What demographic is buying and moving to Detroit?

Oloyede Ade FatogunPosted
  • Developer
  • Hamilton, Ontario
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

@john Corey those are some interesting points, the latest data I was able to find was the population hovering around 670k, and also that the bleeding has stopped in that those leaving are less than 1%, I think it was .06%. 

Post: What demographic is buying and moving to Detroit?

Oloyede Ade FatogunPosted
  • Developer
  • Hamilton, Ontario
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Does anyone have any data on the type of people moving to Detroit, what's the demographic, where are they coming from? 

What is fueling the market and who is buying houses there? 

Post: What demographic is buying and moving to Detroit?

Oloyede Ade FatogunPosted
  • Developer
  • Hamilton, Ontario
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Does anyone have any data on the type of people moving to Detroit, what's the demographic, where are they coming from? 

What is fueling the market and who is buying houses there? 

Post: Starting Out in Ontario,

Oloyede Ade FatogunPosted
  • Developer
  • Hamilton, Ontario
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

Wow, that's great deal. Prices have gone up even more, I bid on a property late last summer in a bidding war scenario. Did not get it, looking at opportunities for this year.

Post: Starting Out in Ontario,

Oloyede Ade FatogunPosted
  • Developer
  • Hamilton, Ontario
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 2

I am new to the site and live in Hamilton, does anyone know have experience doing fix and flips in this region?