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All Forum Posts by: Adam DeShone

Adam DeShone has started 7 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: Short-Term Rental Househack!

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Dave Kush:

Well done sir. I've heard that South bend is a great short-term market.


 Thanks Dave! 

Post: Short-Term Rental Househack!

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Mishawaka.

Purchase price: $168,000
Cash invested: $10,000

Acquired on the market in mid-2021, this single-family home was built in 2005 and was already turnkey. This was my first property, bought as an Airbnb "househack." Located near the University of Notre Dame, while I lived there for two years, I would short-term rent it for games and events and then stay at a family member's house. During this strategy, I broke even and lived for free, covering my yearly total of PITI. Once I moved, I turned it into a long-term rental that generates $2,100 in monthly rent. I have a 30-year fixed interest rate of 2.8% with a monthly PITI of $1,000. Before moving, I also got it reappraised to lose the monthly PMI. The appraisal was $250,000, creating over $80,000 of equity. The area is one of the best in the northern area, with great long-term appreciation. This is a buy-and-hold forever property.
The market value is $250,000.

Post: Huge Indianapolis BRRRR

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Jaron Walling:
Quote from @Henry Lazerow:

Nice deal! Did you not refi all the way or how is PITI so low? $550,000 * .7 = $385k which is roughly $2700 at todays rates. Then prop tax on investment rate IN for a 4 unit probably another $500 + $150 insurance, etc?

Maybe they completed that deal a few years when rates were lower. Otherwise it would seem they trapped more equity than eluded too because I agree with your numbers. 


Yup! If we pulled all the money out, it would have cash flowed, just not as much as we would have liked, so we chose to leave some in. If/when rates drop, we will refinance again at a 30-year fixed rate.

Also, taxes are more like $250 a month.

Post: Huge Indianapolis BRRRR

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25

Acquired on the market, this 4-unit rental needed a full remodel, creating a perfect BRRRR opportunity. It is just 1.5 miles from downtown Indianapolis and surrounded by $800,000 single-family homes. We managed this project remotely, investing $125,000 in the property. Upon completion, the property was appraised for an ARV of $550,000. Between the four 1b/1b units, the property generates $3,800 in total rent, and all utilities are paid for by tenants. With this being such a high-dollar investment property, we locked in a 30-year fixed rate with a PITI of $2,600. Creating $1,200 of total cash flow and nearly $150,000 of equity. This is one of the biggest gentrification areas in Indianapolis and will be a great long-term hold.

The market value is $550,000.

Post: Huge Indianapolis BRRRR

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Shawboro.

Purchase price: $280,000
Cash invested: $125,000

Acquired on the market, this 4-unit rental needed a full remodel, creating a perfect BRRRR opportunity. It is just 1.5 miles from downtown Indianapolis and surrounded by $800,000 single-family homes. We managed this project remotely, investing $125,000 in the property. Upon completion, the property was appraised for an ARV of $550,000. Between the four 1b/1b units, the property generates $3,800 in total rent, and all utilities are paid for by tenants. With this being such a high-dollar investment property, we locked in a 30-year fixed rate with a PITI of $2,600. Creating $1,200 of total cash flow and nearly $150,000 of equity. This is one of the biggest gentrification areas in Indianapolis and will be a great long-term hold.
The market value is $550,000.

Post: Perfect seller finance deal

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Adam DeShone:

Acquired from a retiring landlord in early 2023, this duplex was turnkey upon closing. The previous owner was retiring but wanted to keep the monthly cash coming in with a guaranteed interest rate. Introducing the perfect seller financing opportunity!
This deal was sourced from an agent pocket listing. We negotiated a 90% seller note and a 10% down payment at closing. The terms are 5% interest, 30-year fixed, 30-year amortization, and 10-year balloon. The property was already occupied by long-term tenants and did not need any immediate renovations. When they move, it will need light cosmetic updates. The total monthly PITI is ~$1,050. Both sides rent equal to $2,100.

The market value is $200,000.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

My current specialty is residential investing and managing the properties on the backend. My strategy is to buy and hold. This duplex is in great shape & I could add value by getting the rents to market value. A fixed interest rate of 5% for 10 years is extremely attractive for an uncertain time in interest rates. 

How did you find this deal, and how did you negotiate it?

This deal was a pocket listing from an agent we had previously worked with. He knew my business partner and I are looking to add deals and brought it to us immediately. 

How did you finance this deal?

This was financed as a 90% seller note and a 10% down payment at closing. The terms of the note are 5% interest, 30-year fixed, 30-year amortization, and 10-year balloon.

What was the outcome?

We now own a highly desirable duplex with instant equity, cash flow, low money down, and a locked interest rate.


 *Fixing a mistake on the post* It was 5% down, and a 95% note. Everything else is the same

Post: Perfect seller finance deal

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25

Acquired from a retiring landlord in early 2023, this duplex was turnkey upon closing. The previous owner was retiring but wanted to keep the monthly cash coming in with a guaranteed interest rate. Introducing the perfect seller financing opportunity!
This deal was sourced from an agent pocket listing. We negotiated a 90% seller note and a 10% down payment at closing. The terms are 5% interest, 30-year fixed, 30-year amortization, and 10-year balloon. The property was already occupied by long-term tenants and did not need any immediate renovations. When they move, it will need light cosmetic updates. The total monthly PITI is ~$1,050. Both sides rent equal to $2,100.

The market value is $200,000.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

My current specialty is residential investing and managing the properties on the backend. My strategy is to buy and hold. This duplex is in great shape & I could add value by getting the rents to market value. A fixed interest rate of 5% for 10 years is extremely attractive for an uncertain time in interest rates. 

How did you find this deal, and how did you negotiate it?

This deal was a pocket listing from an agent we had previously worked with. He knew my business partner and I are looking to add deals and brought it to us immediately. 

How did you finance this deal?

This was financed as a 90% seller note and a 10% down payment at closing. The terms of the note are 5% interest, 30-year fixed, 30-year amortization, and 10-year balloon.

What was the outcome?

We now own a highly desirable duplex with instant equity, cash flow, low money down, and a locked interest rate.

Post: I bought a turnkey duplex with $0

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25

Landscaping, snow, and all utilities are covered by the tenants. Taxes and insurance have not gone up, but if they do, rent would reflect that. This one specifically is already slightly undermarket. Lastly, for your turnover costs, we would need to consider that different areas and sizes have different costs. For example, an 800-square-foot unit in Indiana will have a different turnover cost than a 1,200-square-foot unit in Colorado. Using the example "My experience is 3k-10k" is not the same as my experience. It is definitely not a cash flow-heavy duplex right now, but it is in a gentrification area with a lot of upside. I could get it with no money invested and get some cash flow in an area where rents will keep going up. Too much upside to pass up on. 

Post: I bought a turnkey duplex with $0

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Tom Gimer:

Yeah we just didn’t tell the bank about the silent 2nd. 

Why people post these “success stories” I don’t get it. What is possibly to gain?


silent second is a trick us builders use LOL.   Most banks have rules of the road that loan committee sets out and generally one of the major rules after the GFC is NO 100% financing and investors MUST have a down payment in cash.. At least with all the banks I have used.  Although I have never used a credit union but the ones out this way follow the same rules.

 Credit unions often hold onto the mortgage they originate (also known as portfolio loans), whereas banks often sell the mortgages they originate on the secondary mortgage market. Therefore they can adhere to slightly different rules. Which is how I got this structure of loan. 

Post: I bought a turnkey duplex with $0

Adam DeShone
Posted
  • Investor
  • Northern Indiana
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Tom Gimer:
Quote from @Adam DeShone:
Quote from @Tom Gimer:

Yeah we just didn’t tell the bank about the silent 2nd. 

Why people post these “success stories” I don’t get it. What is possibly to gain?

They were fully aware of the note. I’m honestly shocked people are finding it so hard to believe. 

First, you’re not in at $ zero. That’s nonsense. You had closing costs. 

Second there isn’t a chance a lender other than a clueless private fool gave the money for the junior 25%. And nobody patting you on the back in this thread is going to disagree with me. 

My point was why are you even posting the details of this transaction. What is to gain?  

Why are you mad? It is a cool deal about creative financing; can I not post about it? Whether you believe it or not, the credit union did indeed loan exactly as I said, and I have nothing to gain from lying. You do realize some credit unions hold their own portfolios? They can adhere to slightly different loan terms because they aren't selling it. Keep worrying about other people; I'm sure it will pay off. Good luck with your investments.