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All Forum Posts by: Adam Cole

Adam Cole has started 14 posts and replied 50 times.

Post: Investing in Pontiac Michigan

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Drew Sygit:

@Adam Cole Class C tenants live paycheck-to-paycheck, so any emergency or unexpected expense means late rent.

They're also harder on properties and do little maintenance themselves.

The attraction of Class C properties is the higher cashflow.

As @Darius Kellar has shared, the best way to succeed in Class C is to have a great screening process.

You might want to read our series about “How to Screen Applicants like a Pro”:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/93296-how-to-screen-applicants-like-a-pro-part-1-verifying-credit-reports

 I am going to give that a read for sure! I figured that the screening process is the biggest factor in having confidence that your tenants won't hang you out to dry. Thank you for sharing that :)

Do you have any lenders that you have had great experiences working with in the area? My goal is to accumulate faster than I can produce capital on my own. So in addition to raising capital, I am planning to begin developing some lender relationships!

Thank you again for any help/advice

Adam

Post: Investing in Pontiac Michigan

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Darius Kellar:

@Adam Cole Great questions and no I have never encountered tenants damaging anything in the properties. However, nothing is full proof but I have a very logical screening process that does not include a standard background check. To be very brief I have a 2 part process, an application at the open house and secondly some key items that will qualify the tenant via email. During the open house prospect tenants will fill out the brief application that I have. I rely on the open house because it gives me face to face experience with the possible tenants that I am dealing with and some basic idea of there economic status, ect. For example having a reliable car to drive to work and basic communication skills which is more important than anything in my opinion.

If and when damages occur I am prepared for the worse scenarios. I would consider the most expensive things being full house fires or furnaces. For example the insurance covers fire damage and I keep an inventory of furnaces at my house if I ever need to repair or replace a stolen furnace. The problem that has occurred is that I don’t have enough homes for all the applications I receive 😊.

That's truly a great problem to have! Thank you for giving me that information, it helps me rationalize it a bit better and get a grasp on what I am going to be getting into!

As investors in Michigan, do you have a lender that you like to work with? I know that some of the projects can be purchased with cash but at a point using a lender becomes inevitable.


Thanks again :)

Adam
 

Post: Investing in Pontiac Michigan

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Darius Kellar:

@Adam Cole

My experience has been great. I started buying in 2015 when the homes were selling as low 750 dollars .

The pricing is alot higher now though, but I dont believe it is necessary to jump in and buy homes on the regular market in this area at market value. I've ran into many situations where people are still letting 10k homes go.

I do believe amazon, United shore and the other various companies have helped with the upswing of the market values but I dont believe it was un predictable prior to those companies being added. I think it was predictable a few years ago when they eliminated the woman's shelter from pontiac which was the nest for decades of crime. The wave of crime generated from here was pretty vibrant through the city.

 Hi Darius! Thank you for your reply. 

Have you encountered problems with collecting rent or having tenants damage your properties?

I know that a majority of this can be avoided with background checks and thorough screenings but I am curious about how you handle that situation if/when it comes up

Thanks again!

Adam

Post: Investing in Pontiac Michigan

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Drew Sygit:

Pontiac has a majority of Class C tenants, just like Detroit.

Pontiac, in our experience though, has better city services and is less tenant-friendly than Detroit.

So, Pontiac is a pretty good place to invest - if you understand Class C markets.

Appreciate your response Drew, that is the one thing I am hesitant about. My current rentals are all in Flint, but I am dealing with students at Kettering as opposed to actual residents.

Have you run into any major issues renting to Class C tenants? Or any issues collecting rent? I am curious as to what strategies you might utilize to avoid no payment tenants.

 Starting out, capital is scarce for me so I am trying to accumulate lower cost homes before moving on to bigger and brighter things.
 

Post: Investing in Pontiac Michigan

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17

Hello fellow BP Members!

I have been trying to find an area where property values are still low but the potential for future growth is constantly increasing. This resulted in me finding Pontiac, Mi. This area has seen some truly hard times BUT lately there has been a ton of industry moving there.

Amazon distribution warehouse built on the entire Pontiac Silverdome land

United Wholesale Mortgage headquarters moved in and purchased a lot of surrounding land

M1 Concourse Racetrack and Luxury Car Condos built


Has anyone else looked at Pontiac for a potential area for investment? If so, how has your experience been?

Thank you for any help!

Adam C.

Post: Purchasing 1st Property In Michigan

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Jason Collins:

@Adam Cole what are you looking to bring to the partnership if you don't mind me asking - financial, renovating work, managing the property?  I'm guessing whatever skills/resources a beginner has will need to match up nicely to a more experienced partner.  Maybe save that partner a significant amount of time in renovating or managing to make it worth it to them.  

That's a great question. The current deal I am looking at is a nice candidate for a BRRRR property. My goal for this house is to be able to learn the process of rehabbing a property from beginning to end, being that I've never done it before. I have a potential partner that runs his own renovation/custom build business, therefore he is bringing a wealth of experience to the table. However he is quite busy with his own projects, thus my plan would be to take on the full responsibility of getting the project from A to B so that his roles and responsibility would resemble something like:

  1. 1) Down payment capital investment (split between us so that I have some skin in the game too)
  2. 2) Be an advisor for the project in order to ensure that I am heading in the right direction
  3. 3) Using his network on contractors to get the jobs done while also staying within the reno budget

Post: Who is looking to house hack in se michigan??

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17

Hey Joe! 

I just started doing this last year after finding a house that I could both rent out and enjoy living in. Currently located up in Auburn Hills.

Now I am trying to figure out the next steps on expanding my rental property portfolio. I'd love to hear your experience!

Adam

Post: Purchasing 1st Property In Michigan

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17

Hey Jason-

I'm contemplating this very same thing right now in Michigan! From what I've learned on previous podcasts that Brandon has put on is that this is a common occurrence, especially for us beginners that are low on capital. I think another big thing to remember is that the first deal that you do doesn't have to be a homerun. So if you have to give up a chunk of your percentage, but you are afforded the opportunity to dip your toes in the water and gain experience through the means of using someone else's money then it is well worth it. 

My plan is to find a deal that I want to pursue, and lay out a full fledged plan to a potential partner. So hopefully at the end of the conversation I'll end up with either a check or the resources I need to rehab the house.

Post: Bought a 6000$ house

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17

I would agree with what Nathan had said. Refinancing the property, especially after doing a full rehab job, would be the easiest route for liquidity. Using a hard money lender can result in much higher interest rates and then you'll end up in this tight spot again in no time. Whereas if you get the home refinanced and pull out some equity with a bank loan, you'll be able to have sustainable funds for a longer period of time with a lower monthly payment. And plus, no debt collector will be coming to bang on your door looking for their money.

Post: Starting with a duplex

Adam ColePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Rochester, MI
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 17
Do you see any downside to converting a garage to a mother-in-law suite? At least in the north, in order to accommodate someone to live in a garage you are going to have to do some big renovations to make it livable, or else you'll be an ice cube in no time. 

Originally posted by @Jacob Haskins:

@Vasilii Baban

Have you looked at a SFH with mother-in-law suite? Many investors in my area are converting SFH homes with 2 car garages into mother-in-law quarters. Some choose to then reside in the addition and then Airbnb the main living area. This is also a great way to add equity to a home and gain off of the appreciation, while taking advantage of the higher cash-flow short term rental.

I personally bought a SFH that needed a LOT of work. I fixed it up mostly by myself, and then I'll use the equity as down payment on my next investment with a HELOC. This was a great way for me to add value to the home and gain on the appreciation.