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All Forum Posts by: Adam Britt

Adam Britt has started 5 posts and replied 48 times.

Originally posted by @Justin Larese:

if you can get it for 10k, what would be the appraisal for the home? How much equity could you pull out? You could take an equity loan at a low interest rate say 5% and use it to pay  off some of her high interest student loans on top of having a rental. Or she could use the equity for her refinance as collateral which should provide her a lower rate. Something to consider, but if it's in your name only and she leaves you after, that's your monkey now. You need to tackle the student loans. You are trying to pail buckets of water out of a sinking boat full of holes, you will stay stuck until you can lower the amount of water coming in. In regards to high crime. Plex for plumbing replacement no one steals plastic pipes, may need to live in property to ensure no break ins until rented.

 Now that is a creative finance idea. I like it. Pull out the equity to pay the house. Sadly these student loans are about 5x the value of this house but it does give me a new idea to perhaps paying them off even faster once I get started. 

Originally posted by @Garrett Pearson:

@Adam Britt First, let me say my heart breaks as I hear your student loan situation. It is sad that this is the cry of so many of our millennials who are drowning in student loan debts to get a degree to go into careers that don’t afford them a comfortable living after making their loan payments. I wish you well and hope that you can find additional streams of income that will afford you the opportunity to pay the loans off and live the life you deserve. Now my cents. I am curious to know why you feel it’s too late to take 6 credit hours to defer loan repayment until you can do a real estate deal whether it is a fix and flip or save some money to purchase and have cash flow or some other stream of income to help pay down the loans. I know it might sound counterintuitive to increase student loan debt to avoid the payments but may you can use a credit card with zero interest to pay the tuition if you attended a community college tuition should be doable. I admit it would be foolish to increase debt unless it was a means to increase income to reduce debt. In addition one of the classes could be a real estate class required for your license. You mentioned the inconsistency of a realtor’s salary but you can do that one a part time basis which can bring in additional income as well as possibility giving you first dibs on some great real estates deals not to mention the invaluable education about real estate. I know this plan doesn’t come without risk and it is not a quick fix but can be a strategy and it’s something to atleast consider. Hope everything works out for you.

 Thanks for the encouragement! Interesting. I didn’t think about the concept of taking classes in order to defer the payment. While I can see that as a possibility, keep in mind the loans are in my wife’s name. So she would be the one needing to take the classes. And I don’t think there is any class out there she could take that could increase her ability to make money. She is ... not of the same mindset as I am, thus the massive loans at 15% interest. 

Originally posted by @Mindy Jensen:

@Adam Britt , I'm going to send you to two podcast episodes. Craig Curelop used House Hacking to pay his student loans and shares the story on Episode 35 of BiggerPockets Money. (www.biggerpockets.com/moneyshow35)

And Rich Carey invests in Alabama long distance from Korea where he is serving in the Military. He tells his story of paying cash for houses in Episode 268 of the BiggerPockets Real Estate Investing Podcast (www.biggerpockets.com/show268)

I didn't read what your profession is. We also interviewed Travis Hornsby from Student Loan Planner in an Episode titled How to pay off 6-figure debt while pursuing Financial Independence. Check out (www.biggerpockets.com/moneyshow22)

 Thanks Mindy!! I am pretty sure I have already enjoyed those first 2 podcasts. I may have to listen again ... and I’ll definitely check out the third link too!

Originally posted by @Michael Noto:

@Adam Britt I do not recommend getting into the rental real estate business without reserves. Especially in a low income area. It is setting yourself up for something bad to happen.

Save more money and pay down your debt. Have you thought about starting a business that is real estate related?

I have! Considered being an agent to get started actually. Other agents talked me out of it. Apparently, not having a steady paycheck is much more dangerous when you owe the same amount in loans every month. I want to do that on the side still as an extra side hustle. I just haven’t gotten one of those “round tuits” yet from Mr Ziegler since I’ve been chasing credentialing in my primary profession, and working every weekend in my secondary profession.  

Originally posted by @Cassandra Sifford:

I'd say that this doesnt sound like a good investment to take on at this point in time. Your relative is familiar with the area so she knows its goimg to he alot added onto your already full plate. In regards to your wife's student loans, thete has ti be a way to refinance and / or consolidate. Possibly taking out a personal loan in your name and the two of you can tackle paying it down at a lpwer interest rate since your credit is good. If you don't own a home, possibly househack a duplex or triplex and let your tenants pay the mortgage and use the rest of the funds to pay down debt. Not sure if the two of you have some untapped talent or skill that can help add to your financial situation?

Well wishes in whatever you do!

 Beautiful ideas. I may seriously consider doing smaller personal loans to cut some interest. That seems practical... 

I do own a home. The payment on that is less than half of my student loans! I wanted to house hack worst in the world (I own basically every book BP has our) but I’m afraid cost is the barrier to entry. Multifamily property in our area is either massively overpriced, or it is in the war zone. If you know of one that is actually worth while ... tell me. I’ll sell my house tomorrow and go in on it! 

Originally posted by @Jonathan R.:

Once again @Dennis M. comes through with a great post that puts a smile on my face. He’s blunt, but accurate. @Adam Britt is this possible? Can you use the power of D class Section 8 rental properties to save you from your student loan debt and propel you to financial freedom? Yes, I think I’m proof that the concept can work. But... I don’t see a similarity in the way you are currently thinking (from the voice in your posts) to the way I was thinking when I got started, other than the type of real estate you are thinking about buying.

I wanted it so badly. My veins were on fire. My heart beat out of my chest. I didn’t care what problems I faced. I’d rehab the property myself off YouTube videos if I had to (despite no mechanical or contractoral ability). I wanted to paint the walls. I wanted the feeling of pride as I held onto the porch railing. I didn’t care who told me I couldn’t do it. I was going to put it all on the line. Go big or go home. When your whole body aches for it, then and only then will you be ready. It’s kinda like that scene in Braveheart after the English commander kills Mel Gibson’s wife, when he’s on the horse coming down the hill with that look of calm on his face, but then you see his eyes, he has that look of sure fire determination, it was breathtaking. Yeah, it’s kinda like that.

Oh excellent thought. I see your point. But surely, people with less passion than a man avenging his wife can still succeed? 

Jokes aside I like the way you put it. That’s definitely a difference between us. I see it as opportunity. As theory. As a theoretical answer to impossible questions. Not as the burning desire for my lifes work. I couldn’t care less about real estate itself. What I care about are the numbers. I understand cash flow. I understand value and appreciation. Maybe I just need more time to stew on it and have that burning start, down in my bones! 

Originally posted by @Jerry Murphy:

@Adam Britt

Take 6 credits at a local community college two semesters a year and you will not have to make payments on your loans. Take easy classes that will require no effort and little attendance.

Great advice for future students! I try to encourage my students to make wise decisions with their education as well. I definitely tell them how impactful debt is, and how a degree does not mean what it once did. 

As for me, it’s about 15 years too late to take that advice! 

Originally posted by @Ian Walsh:

Rough neighborhoods lack appreciation potential but have high cash flow.  The real question is what is your stomach made of.  Some people are made for it and others will get steam rolled.

 Ha you know, this one strikes me. Hard. I’m a very mellow, laid back guy. You may even call me a pushover. Which is the reason I will always anticipate going for a solid property management company to help shore up my “weakness” in that area. I’m great with people, but not great in getting my way. Your post made me think a lot more about exactly how my personality will impact my hopeful goals in real estate. 

Oh wow everyone. I’ve been trying to respond to each message in the thread but ... wow you have all given me a great deal to think about. Some very solid suggestions I’ll pursue on possible options with student loans. Some of these seem plausable. I’ll still be in hard debt till I’m in my 50s, best case scenario. And I hate to lose 20 years of making my money work for me instead of wanting to die working for money but ... some situations just can’t be fixed otherwise. The major tenor here is pay off the loans. And now I definitely see some possible opportunities to accelerate the process. 

@Merritt S.

All suggestions welcome. And I agree. Following this line of thought is exactly why I haven’t made a move.

It is also why I’m 4 years in the exact same situation, and why I will continue to be in the exact same situation until I die. Literally. Short of finding a way to multiply my income drastically, we will never touch these student loans. Thus my interest in generating income via real estate.

Any advice then for the more pressing issue at hand? Maybe I need to post in a different area about those student loans ...