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All Forum Posts by: Adam Craig

Adam Craig has started 263 posts and replied 568 times.

Post: How soon can I refinance a commercial building?

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130
Originally posted by @Stephanie P.:
Originally posted by @Adam Craig:
Originally posted by @Kevin Van Schepen:

Every commercial lender is different. Some lender's may lend a certain percentage of the purchase price even after the renovations have been made.

Some lenders will lend based on the appraised value at the time of the refinance.

Every lender is different. As a commercial lender, I like to see at least 6 months of stabilization prior to refinancing.

If 6 months are not attainable, I will require the appraisal to be done upfront prior to underwriting so we know what value we are working off of.

 Follow up question - This is a 4 unit office and the plan is to convert to 6 spaces. When I looked for comps I went back nearly a decade and I was unable to find what I would consider a comparable - this is an old historic house converted to office space. There are around 8 other properties in this down-town area like it but not have sold. How are commercial lenders going to determine the value - comparable buildings or the rent coming in?

Adam,

You may be in a pickle.  Converting it to 6 spaces limits the number of available properties to comp it to, it changes the make up of the available financing and shrinks your clientele.  

The answer to your question is the valuation for commercial properties derived at using the income approach. The appraiser will do a narrative appraisal (usually around 85 pages) and they do a comparable market analysis which includes market rents, market trends and any external obsolescence depressing the market like wage stagnation, population growth, industries leaving or coming into a market etc...  They do want to see comparable sales, but the income approach is what they will use for valuation.

Can you take it back to 4 units?

Stephanie

 Right now it is 4 units. But one of the units is so large (used for small/medium sized law firm) I wanted to break it up in hopes of having better success renting it out quick. So you are saying leave it as a 4 unit and it would be beneficial? 

Post: How soon can I refinance a commercial building?

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130
Originally posted by @Kevin Van Schepen:

Every commercial lender is different. Some lender's may lend a certain percentage of the purchase price even after the renovations have been made.

Some lenders will lend based on the appraised value at the time of the refinance.

Every lender is different. As a commercial lender, I like to see at least 6 months of stabilization prior to refinancing.

If 6 months are not attainable, I will require the appraisal to be done upfront prior to underwriting so we know what value we are working off of.

 Follow up question - This is a 4 unit office and the plan is to convert to 6 spaces. When I looked for comps I went back nearly a decade and I was unable to find what I would consider a comparable - this is an old historic house converted to office space. There are around 8 other properties in this down-town area like it but not have sold. How are commercial lenders going to determine the value - comparable buildings or the rent coming in?

Post: How soon can I refinance a commercial building?

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130
Originally posted by @Paul Defngin:
Originally posted by @Adam Craig:

I am looking to purchase a historic house converted to a 4 unit office building right in great trendy downtown area - I would be converting it to 6 spaces and using one space for my own business. The price is 275K.

I have been getting some push back from the commercial lender I use because the building will be vacant on transfer so it will take a small cosmetic 1 month rehab and some more time to get it leased up. So my DSR had to be good enough to carry the whole loan assuming I get 0 rent which was going to require more down.

I am now thinking about doing what I do with my single family BRRRR. If I purchase this with hard money, how soon can I take it to a bank to get it refinanced? Soon as I have signed leases?

“Historic..” Are you experienced in working with historical properties?  If you do, great, but if you don’t, then tread lightly and do your due diligence first. 

 I have never owned a technically historic home - but most of the homes I rehab are from 1920-1950. This one is from the late 1800's but was completely gutted and renovated in 1988. What would be different?

Post: How soon can I refinance a commercial building?

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130

I am looking to purchase a historic house converted to a 4 unit office building right in great trendy downtown area - I would be converting it to 6 spaces and using one space for my own business. The price is 275K.

I have been getting some push back from the commercial lender I use because the building will be vacant on transfer so it will take a small cosmetic 1 month rehab and some more time to get it leased up. So my DSR had to be good enough to carry the whole loan assuming I get 0 rent which was going to require more down.

I am now thinking about doing what I do with my single family BRRRR. If I purchase this with hard money, how soon can I take it to a bank to get it refinanced? Soon as I have signed leases?

Post: Help with shutter and front door color on red brick bungalow.

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130

Looking for some color suggestions where the front door and shutters on this small brick property.

Post: court house steps and tax lien -

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130

I have done many auction.com/hubzu/xomne purchases. I want to dip my toe into court house steps because I have purchased some of my flips from these guys and I buy many properties as/is with no access inside on auction sites.

In my research it was not clear - Do I need to have a title search done on these properties or can expect them to be free/clear of tax liens and clear title on transfer?

Post: Color help for exterior paint on half brick house

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130

Hi all -

When we flip homes we have been going with some really popular grays. This one is half red brick so I am not sure any type of grey would work. Any suggestions are appreciated - painting the brick possible but here in Cleveland market with the winters we have no maintenance brick is appealing.

Post: Need help with my investor profile I can show private investors.

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130

Good stuff ! You saved me alot of work putting 50+ transactions onto a spreadsheet :)

Post: Need help with my investor profile I can show private investors.

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130
Originally posted by @Patricia Steiner:

In 60 seconds or less, who are you as an investor?  What is your investment philosophy, how have you executed it, and what is your vision for the future based on market knowledge. And, stop.

Don't give your resume.  Summarize your deals - like you did above - and why joining you in investing is a smart wealth strategy.  Don't oversell. Don't give too much detail. It's this is who I am and what I do - and this is why it's a great wealth creation opportunity to join me. 

You've got this.  

Thank you! I do believe I have a tenancy to give too much information. I have been reading books/podcasts/youtube on raising capital. Part of the reason I was thinking of creating a "flyer" about myself is incase I ever do any direct mail marketing to doctors/lawyers people with money. Or if I am ever in front of these people it would be nice to hand them something after I give my pitch?

Post: Need help with my investor profile I can show private investors.

Adam CraigPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 130


I have been doing real estate 8 years. I have purchased and rehabbed more then 50 homes and sold more then 30. I have a 32 rental units and plan on moving into apartments I am at the stage where I am going to try and get off/reduce hard money and bank and create a pool of private investors. I am currently working with 3 but I think its just the tip of the iceberg. 

What is a good way to present myself? In addition to my pitch, I want to create a investor profile flyer letting potential lenders know who I am and what my track record is.

Do you think it would be good to list every deal on an excel sheet with address/buy date ect...? Or is that overkill.

Thoughts appreciated!