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All Forum Posts by: Allen B.

Allen B. has started 16 posts and replied 44 times.

Post: How to figure net worth for lender?

Allen B.Posted
  • Investor
  • Chicago area
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 34

Thanks @Charles Seaman -- I agree completely. "Net Worth" is pretty obvious. I start to get concerned where pages of rules are involved, though. Somewhere in the past, I've seen references to not counting a primary residence but it must have been for some special purpose or another.

Cheers!

Post: How to figure net worth for lender?

Allen B.Posted
  • Investor
  • Chicago area
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 34

For at least some types of commercial lending, loan balance is capped at the net worth of the buyer(s). I've looked but so far, not been able to find guidelines for how that is calculated. In particular, would a primary residence be included?

Seems like Fannie & Freddie ought to have painfully detailed specifics somewhere, but I haven't found them yet. Trying to rule out as many painful surprises as I can, in advance.

Thanks,
Allen

Post: Stepping up to multi-family, Chicago area

Allen B.Posted
  • Investor
  • Chicago area
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 34

Hi All, thanks for the great suggestions!

@Greg Dickerson, you've hit on something I'm a bit concerned about, the "experience" requirement. I'll be talking to a few lenders in the next several days and plan to dig on that subject a bit. 

@Mark Ainley, somewhere in the B-C range but haven't learned enough to narrow that down. I live on the north side of town near the lake, so closer to that is a plus, but willing to make a longer drive for the right opportunities. Learning about neighborhoods right now.

@Brie Schmidt, believe I spoke with a colleague of yours today! My focus is on income first, with a secondary focus on adding value and ultimately expanding. My goal is to reach 10% leveraged cash-on-cash but still have too many unknowns to understand whether that's possible at a reasonable cap rate with real-world financing. Talking to lenders and doing some math should answer that question soon.

@Jonathan Klemm, wasn't sure if it was wise to post numbers. I've seen people get scolded for announcing that they've got $50k to invest and asking how to get into REI :-) This is enough to look at one fairly large purchase or several moderate ones. Happy to detail via PM.

In the past, I bought mostly uninhabitable SFRs but that feels like too much to bite off at this level. For now, I'm looking at occupied buildings that could be improved. A few units in a larger property needing serious rehab would be OK, but not the whole building.

@Colby Fryar, if I could find someone to learn the Chicago multi-family ropes from directly, that would be ideal, but no clue how to make that happen. Suggestions definitely appreciated here.

Thanks again,
Allen

Post: Stepping up to multi-family, Chicago area

Allen B.Posted
  • Investor
  • Chicago area
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 34

Hi All,

I'm a reasonably experienced SFR investor, having bought, renovated, and managed a dozen units in Atlanta for some years (started late 2007). Much of this was me personally, until having a family and then in early 2017, moving away. Since then I've hired a management company and fortunately, had a good experience.

Times change. After years of steady-state, property values have gone up substantially. Of course, taxes rose right along with them. Rents have increased nicely, but not nearly enough to preserve ROI.

This year we decided it was time to sell, and everything is under contract and set to close just prior to the new year. I'm doing a 1031 to avoid the brutal tax hit. Which brings me to... building a team (that's what we call it, right?)

For various reasons, I didn't get started on this as early as planned. At a minimum, there is:

1. Find a good agent to work with. Someone who knows the industry and can answer questions beyond just "how much have you got, what do you want?"

2. Ditto for a good lender.

3. An attorney for ownership structure, contract review, etc.

4. Contractors, but I've got some leads there and am not quite as pressured.

5. Ideally, to meet other investors with similar interests who're willing to chat. Naturally, Covid makes this tricky.

We live in the Chicago area now, and plan to stay long-term. I'd like to focus on property within a reasonable driving distance. I'm interested in "middle quality" commercial multifamily. By that, I mean properties which are currently occupied (though maybe not fully) and generally functional, but which have room for improvement. So nothing that isn't livable, but also no brand-new 5-caps in Lincoln Park.

What I'm looking for are helpful tips about making the contacts mentioned above (agents & lenders in particular), and general thoughts about making the step up. Clearly I won't be doing everything myself this time.

Any and all thoughts appreciated, especially from this area. Thanks!