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All Forum Posts by: Aaron Wilkins

Aaron Wilkins has started 2 posts and replied 6 times.

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Aaron Wilkins:

I owned property in my personal name for almost 20 years before I created an LLC, and that's only because I set up a Trust. It is far, far more important to focus on knowing the law, obeying the law, and treating your tenants honestly and fairly.

An LLC is useful for two things: anonymity and legal protection. In most cases, neither is warranted.

Warning: I am not an attorney, and this can be a complicated topic. Please note the information provided below is a layman's definition designed to provide a basic understanding for the general audience. You should consult an attorney or CPA for your specific situation.

ANONYMITY: When you create the LLC, your name is recorded on the documents and published on the Secretary of State's website for all to see. So you're not completely anonymous. If you want to be completely anonymous, you can use a Registered Agent. The Registered Agent will record the documents on your behalf so only their name and information appear on the documents. I've done this with my properties because I'm well known in my small town and don't want people to know what I own.

LEGAL PROTECTION: By placing your assets in an LLC, you are legally separating them from your personal assets. If someone injures themselves and sues, they will be suing the LLC and not you personally. If your insurance coverage isn't enough, they could seize the LLC assets, but not your personal assets.

Additional thoughts:

1. An LLC is not free. You can spend as little as $100 to form an LLC, or you could use an attorney and spend $1,000 or more. There are also additional costs of operating and maintaining an LLC, like separate bank accounts, annual report filings, tax filings, etc.

2. There are rules to follow! If you fail to follow the rules, you may open your personal assets to a lawsuit. An example of this would be mixing your personal money and LLC money in the same bank account.

3. You do not need a separate LLC for each property or a series LLC! Don't make your life more complicated than it has to be. Most professionals will recommend a separate LLC for every $1 million in assets but I don't think that's necessary. In my case, I have residential rentals in one LLC, commercial properties in another, self storage in a third, and my real estate company operates in a fourth. Some have more than $1 million in equity while others have less.

4. The need for an LLC is grossly exaggerated on BiggerPockets and other websites. Have you ever heard of a Landlord being sued by a Tenant and losing property? I've been on this board since 2010 and haven't found an example yet. You've probably heard of big Landlords losing property, but only because they were flagrantly violating Fair Housing, running a slum, or otherwise violating the law in an egregious manner. You are more likely to be struck by lightning twice. The vast majority of lawsuits against Landlords are for wrongful eviction, security deposit disputes, and Fair Housing Violations. Your primary insurance policy with $300,000 in liability coverage should be sufficient in 99.999% of all lawsuits.

5. The best protection for you and your investments? Know and obey the law. I manage around 400 rentals with 14 years of experience and have never been sued once. Even if I were sued, I document everything and obey the law, so I won't be found guilty. Even if I were found guilty, the cost would be in the thousands, not in the millions. Insurance would cover it, I would pay the deductible, and no assets would be lost.

If you are in an area like San Diego where people are more likely to sue, a judge is more likely to find you guilty, and the payout is expected to be higher, you may consider an umbrella insurance policy. This policy will provide additional coverage above what your existing policy covers. It's easy to obtain, costs very little, and doesn't require extra, on-going effort to maintain.


I spoke to my insurance guy and in its infancy with not starting an LLC to expedite things being in the background he said an umbrella policy would do the trick from his viewpoint. I'm not going to have a ton of assets to start of course. So you had the idea of putting your personal assets out of your name and into a trust as well to somewhat separate things is what it sounds like?

I think I'll definitely need to run this by someone with a legal background. 

Quote from @Joe Homs:

@Aaron Wilkins I am not an attorney or CPA, but you asked.

Keep stuff in my name so I have more lending options and better rates, including credit unions. All banks require this even if you have an LLC. Then you place it back into your LLC. There is way too much exposure for you to keep assets in your personal name.

Have iron clad insurance for myself as a landlord. The goal of any insurance company is to minimize there losses. Even having a iron clad insurance policy, which you should have anyway, is not a guarantee that the insurance company will make you whole. If the property is in an LLC then that is all you can lose. They can't come after you personally.

Move my top assets like my home and paid off cars out of my name into a trust to further protect me.  Trust are privacy instruments and not asset protection.

Anyone see a glaring hole in this plan? Something I missed?  Speak with someone who knows what they are doing to properly protect your assets.  You will sleep better at night.

Good Investing...


Sincere thanks for your feedback sir. My question is did you have a LLC from the beginning or as your assets and risk grew you set one up? With the loan transfer from yourself to LLC you never had the bill due on sale/transfer happen to you?

Post: Hello Bigger Pockets Community

Aaron WilkinsPosted
  • Washington DC area
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Heath Thomas Jr:

Welcome Aaron! I definitely recommend checking some of the real estate meetups in the area (there are plenty to choose from) to start getting connected with people in similar spots and to find resources to help.

Happy to answer any questions you might have.


 Thank you! Well I do have one question since you're in my area and apart of this community. I was digging around this forum for a region specific category but didn't find one yet? Does one exist? 

Post: Hello Bigger Pockets Community

Aaron WilkinsPosted
  • Washington DC area
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

Welcome to BiggerPockets Aaron and best of luck investing!


 Thank you! 

I don't want to get stuck in the need to start X before I really get things moving. Curious to whom became a landlord without an LLC. I have a plan working with a friend who owns an insurance company to guide me on a solid policy that protects me with errors and omissions, legit insurance business owner whom I've had car insurance with at one time and introduced me to the CPA I've been using for a little under a decade.

My plan is as follows:

Keep stuff in my name so I have more lending options and better rates, including credit unions. 

Have iron clad insurance for myself as a landlord.

Move my top assets like my home and paid off cars out of my name into a trust to further protect me.

Anyone see a glaring hole in this plan? Something I missed? 

Post: Hello Bigger Pockets Community

Aaron WilkinsPosted
  • Washington DC area
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 5

My name is Aaron Wilkins and I am IT engineer in the DC metro area. I want to be of value and gain value from this community, I am here mainly from my desire to realistically create a passive income over the next decade or so. Would say sooner but being realistic with time. I have experienced a lot of success in my career and have a solid W2 but realize its not going to get me where I ultimately want to be.  

I am here to find and BRRRR my first property then be dynamic about the next step seeing what options would be best from using the ARV money. I am on the final chapter of reading The BRRRR Rental Property Investment Strategy Made Simple book.

I have a bit of an advantage that I want to capitalize on. I am married to a successful interior designer who serves luxury clients but can work with me to make rental properties look great for half the cost with her knowledge of what makes the most impact. We have a contractor we have used for her business and our personal home that is amazing and extremely reasonably priced that will do rehabs. I have light handy work from helping in my wife's business. I have a strong work ethic and don't shy away from hard physical labor thanks to my granddad making me carry pack of shingles up on roofs at 6am during my summer when I was 11 years old, my pay was dinner that night lol. 

I am seeking to help those that can mentor me and find very good deals in the counties surrounding DC, specifically the ones in Maryland and west Virginia that are roughly 50 miles away. Frederick county Maryland and Jefferson county west Virginia to name two. 

Looking forward to this adventure.