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All Forum Posts by: Aaron W Cary

Aaron W Cary has started 1 posts and replied 6 times.

Post: Rental Property Investing when they dont cashflow

Aaron W Cary Posted
  • Bay Area, CA
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 5

To add to this, what is driving people to be buying these properties where the numbers just simply don't make sense and it obviously doesn't cash flow? Are people hedging on inflation and appreciation? 

Post: Newbie finding the right area BRRRR

Aaron W Cary Posted
  • Bay Area, CA
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Brenden Mitchum:

Hey @Aaron W Cary, welcome to the BP community!

Someone hinted at this above, but might be worth looking into house hacking or a combo of house hacking and BRRRR. I only say this because BRRRR can be a very capital, time & knowledge intensive strategy. You will need a lot of at least one of those things, likely all three for your first one. Building a fantastic team will certainly help lessen the burden but again, that takes time and knowledge.

House hacking on the other hand can really be as difficult as you want it to be. If you have lots of free time and want to get more experience and better returns, buy something that needs some work and fix up one side. Move into that side and start fixing up the other side before you rent it out. Refi 6+ months later. Move out in a year and do it again. The easier, less time intensive version is to buy something more turnkey and cut out much of the rehab portion of the strategy. 

Lots of options on house hacking and you can get fantastic low-down loan products (granted the property is in good enough condition). This is the no-brainer strategy for someone who has the option to move to any market.

Don't get me wrong though, BRRRR is an awesome strategy. I'm just suggesting you get set up in a market with a house hack since it's easier and requires less capital/energy (usually). As you learn the market better and build your team, you can then more easily begin BRRRRing!

Hope this helps a bit. Please, feel free to reach out anytime if you have other questions or just want to chat!



@Brenden Mitchum Thank you for taking the time to respond! I'd love to connect with you as I'm looking into moving to Atlanta in the next year. House hacking seems to be ideal for my situation. 

Post: Newbie finding the right area BRRRR

Aaron W Cary Posted
  • Bay Area, CA
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Nicholas Misch:
Quote from @Aaron W Cary:

Hello everyone!

I'm currently 25 working full time as a pilot with a lot of flexibility to move around the country. I'm looking to BRRRR for my first deal but don't have a lot of capital to do it (sub 100k). Does anyone have a market they love where a cash buy/rehab can be accomplished sub 100k without a lot of headache from tenants afterwards (class B areas and above?). I feel it would be impossible to do this where I currently live in California. I was looking into Memphis TN/Evansville Indiana as possibilities. Atlanta also looks appealing for being close to work.

I'm currently reading through David Greene's BRRRR book and its awesome!

Thank you!

Hey Aaron,

I have read and listed to the BRRRR book many times! David explains it so well it’s the book that got me doing it. 

I first would like to point out that the A,B,C,D categories are just good rules of thumb, but very much vary based on what each individual investor feels constitutes each class. 

We are currently doing a BRRRR on the far west side of Cleveland that we will be all in $90k cash and will appraise for $120k minimum. Will have great tenants because we have a very good screening process. Don’t let anyone tell you deals all in under $100k can’t be found because they definitely can. 

That's awesome Nicholas. I'd love to hear about how you went about estimating the ARV, and how it's been going with your deal/what you've been learning. Thank you for your input it changed my perspective.

Post: Newbie finding the right area BRRRR

Aaron W Cary Posted
  • Bay Area, CA
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Nathan Grabau:

Are you looking to invest less than 100k or have a total budget for your down payment/ out of pocket costs at under 100k? If you have 100k in dry powder, that can get you a 300-400k budget easily for a BRRRR deal once you leverage.

That being aid I would generally agree with people who say to house hack as much as you can before going to do other deals. 

Thanks for the response Nathan! Yea, I've got about 80K to invest right now from my savings. David seems to suggest to get into a BRRRR you need to give cash offers because the properties are in a such poor condition they wouldn't qualify for a loan and the ease of closing with cash/getting a property under market value.

Are you saying you can BRRRR still by getting into the property with a loan?

Post: Newbie finding the right area BRRRR

Aaron W Cary Posted
  • Bay Area, CA
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Marshall Leipprandt:

@Aaron W Cary Sub $100K in a B area or better doesn't exist, even outside of CA. I'm hoping others can prove me wrong, I just don't see how its possible in this market. Maybe go outside of the traditional BRRRR and do a live-in BRRRR? Use your capital as a down payment on a large SFH with bedrooms you can rent out or a 2-4 unit. Doesn't give you as much upside in value since you wouldn't be buying a complete gut, but it's a little more stable and feasible in this market.

Love the BRRRR book! Hope you can find something that meets your goals and criteria.

Thank you for the response Marshall! That sets my expectations. I'm thinking it may be a better idea to do what your saying and house hack until I've got enough saved up to BRRRR properly. I'm just wary of tying up capitol in a house hack and delaying the time I could start BRRRRing.


Post: Newbie finding the right area BRRRR

Aaron W Cary Posted
  • Bay Area, CA
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 5

Hello everyone!

I'm currently 25 working full time as a pilot with a lot of flexibility to move around the country. I'm looking to BRRRR for my first deal but don't have a lot of capital to do it (sub 100k). Does anyone have a market they love where a cash buy/rehab can be accomplished sub 100k without a lot of headache from tenants afterwards (class B areas and above?). I feel it would be impossible to do this where I currently live in California. I was looking into Memphis TN/Evansville Indiana as possibilities. Atlanta also looks appealing for being close to work.

I'm currently reading through David Greene's BRRRR book and its awesome!

Thank you!