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All Forum Posts by: Aaron Toliver

Aaron Toliver has started 5 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Help With My Plan UBG Style

Aaron ToliverPosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 2

There are major holes in my plan that I need to fill out. Point me out in the right direction guys. 

Before I get started I'll tell you guys a little bit about myself. I'm a starving artist although I've never been truly hungry a day of my life, which is a huge blessing given the things I do. My three main sources of income are acting (which pays by the job), dancing (which pays by the lesson), and writing fiction (which pays by the book deal). None of these are consistent and I've been lucky enough to live by them so far. One day, my body and looks will fade, which rules out the most consistent (relatively speaking) of those three trades. 

Things have to change. So my main goal is to build enough monthly income to live on whenever one or more of my artistic pursuits dries out. 

Mind you, that is my short term goal (3-5 years). If I can build income security I can focus more on those pursuits. For example, the money I earn from teaching dance lessons can pay for new headshots, so on and so forth.

Once I've met this goal I'd like to continue to invest in my eventual retirement, future family plans and the like.

I've factored several costs of living into my cash goal, including average rent, food, insurance, and emergency funds, and I need to guild up my passive income quite a bit. $3300/mo.

It's hefty. So I started using the Ultimate Beginners Guide, and here's what I have so far.

Education.

There's a lot of stuff on here, and I'd like to aim my education in the right place. I ALMOST fell for the wholesale newbie trap, but the Podcast got me off of that quick. I need a mentor in the particular field that I would reach my goals with... but I'm not sure exactly what I would get into yet. I'm reading up on all the strategies right now to determine which would be right for me. 

Niche & Strategy.

Niche: Single Home

Strategy: NOT SURE YET

I'm going to skip to a really important part that leaves me breathless...

Cost.

I have no savings, no credit history, and all my money goes into surviving and pursuit of my crafts. I've purchased the book on Investing With Little Or No Money. I'm about a quarter of the way through, and it seems to me like I need to build a particular skill set that would attract Other People's Money. I know I need to be REALLY good at finding great deals, but that's all I have right now.

I'm aware it's all going to take time, but the longer it takes for me to act, the further down the road my goals will be. 

So my questions are...

1. What strategies have worked for you to generate monthly income?

2. What skills do I need to nurture? Vague mantras are nice, but specific and small skills that I can work on now are preferred.

3. Is my short term goal unrealistic? Being able to build even half of that would help me immensely.

Thanks in advance, everyone.

Post: Newbie From Charlotte, NC

Aaron ToliverPosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Lisa Hoover:

Hi Aaron

I can tell you're a great writer from your introduction!  Maybe i'll hire you to write my. introduction ; )   or better yet

i'll train you to be an investor and we write a book --A to Z.  I bought my first property at 24-- my first job out of grad school was as a chemist for Miller Brewing Co in NC.  They offered me a position in Los Angeles.. and I initially turned it down. When they asked WHY? all i could think of was the difference in 'cost of living' between Greensboro & LA.

(i was actually just chicken to move by myself across the country )

15 minutes later the Plant Mgr called me and said "we will buy you a house."

My poor Mom, that offer was on a Wednesday and i was on a one-way flight to LA by Saturday.  I remember thinking, "wow why would anyone STAY in grad school to get a painful PHD in Chemistry when companies are so awesome to their employees?"

That was in 1981--- how things have changed just during my working career.

I'm 60 now, retired, and for the first time looking at starting to sell my properties as FSBO to owner-occupiers starting in 2017.

The props are now  too high priced to be investor rental props.

So i was investing 'with other people's money' long before Robert Kiyosaki's book in 1997-- but that book confirmed what i was already experiencing andFOCUSED my mind to lead me to a NEW career --in investing and helping other people invest.

I'm so glad i got my real estate license back in the 90s because i quickly figured out that --wow when I buy a house I GET TO PAY MYSELF at closing (as my own buyers agent) a truly negotiable commission-- ( free market) financed into the loan.  Rule of thumb:  every 10,000 in loan amount adds about $50 a month to the monthly payment.  hmmmm

Real Example: In 2002,we bought (owner occupied zero down payment) a $240,000 'list  price' -foreclosure (near Ballantyne-- 2800 sqft 4 BR. 3 BA on the golf course) from a local credit union and they had done A LOT of rehab.. new int/ext paint, new carpet,replaced inground pool equip and liner, new windows, refinished hw floors.. but during the inspection we found both HVAC systems were the original 1983.

So i got quotes ($12,000) and financed that into the loan , funds escrowed and work started on the day of closing.

Remember-- that only added $50 a month to my PITI.

Then, usual buyer agent commissions run about 3% of the loan amount

which at 100 % financing 240 + 12 is 252... so instead of 3% i wrote the offer to say 5% so instead of ~~7500 i paid myself $10,000+( which added another $50 a month to my payment. I got $22,000 basically at closing and a really nice golf course community home on 1/2 acre.

The house appraised because it was a foreclosure and that $10k paid for our move and several months of mortgage payments.

i still have that house--now rented at $2400a month ( my PITI and HOA is $1380) and zillow says value today is $415,000. i've endured a couple of bad tenants since it bacame a rental in 2004--( like during the crash) but most have been a dream.

So i see lots of opportunity for you-- you can buy HUD or Bank foreclosures as owner occupied. You can rent one of the NCSECUs fixed up foreclosures (if you are eligible to become a member) and they will help you buy it --as owner occupied.. then in 6 mos or so, you can rent it out to only a PERFECT tenant and go buy another property-- if you are a realtor-- there's another payday.

Credit  Unions are the next best entity after Miller Brewing Co : )

When i train investors:

1. Make money the day you buy.

2. Keep your money in your pocket.

3. i actually have 10 rules but this post is already WAY too long : )

send me a colleague request and i'm happy to share with you off line.

Learn all you can from BP.  Learn about Property Mgmt and a few things about landlord/tenant law in NC. 

Think about getting a broker license-- your buyers will teach YOU so much!!

Go to the website www.ncrec. and you can read example standard NCAR RENTAL lease , offer to purchase contracts-- now insanely long, etc.

And ask questions. So many people helped me along the way. 

Happy &  Successful Investing!

Work while you are young and Save up some cash--every property will need some unexpected repair and you are the landlord -- build and protect your credit score ( you'll never regret that effort)

 I like your pitch and your profile, Lisa. I'll be in touch. 

Post: Newbie From Charlotte, NC

Aaron ToliverPosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Daniel Ramirez:

Hey @Aaron Toliver,

Welcome to BP. You sound passionate about REI already. I hope you persist in this endeavor and overcome the biggest hurdle in the business -- jumping in!

Have you formulated a strategy for yourself yet?

 I'm actually working on that as we speak. I've been all over the place trying to figure out what I need to do first, and then I found the UBG. I'm formatting a plan around that. I know how much passive income per month I need to make to obtain my goals and I'm working my way back from there. 

Post: Newbie From Charlotte, NC

Aaron ToliverPosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 2

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone.

Post: Newbie From Charlotte, NC

Aaron ToliverPosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 2

Salutations, Everyone

My name is Aaron, and Ill start with a thank you to this website and everyone here. Ive been a long time lurker, reading and watching videos. It's been invaluable.

I'm a "starving artist" although I've never truly been hungry. I consider myself primarily an actor, but auditions and jobs are always temporary. I'm a Ballroom Dance instructor in the evenings, but I get paid by the lesson and seasons affect business. I'm also an author, buy my first story won't be published for another year. 

Anyone seeing the problem?

For the last decade I've been in and out of my parents' home. They're loving and accepting of my situation, but most potential lovers are not. I have to chose between rent and investing in my skills, eating healthy and maintaining my car for auditions, so on and so forth.

I always thought I'd have to go through this until I got a really good pay day, and then I read Rich Dad Poor Dad. It was then that I realized... that payday isn't coming.

I jumped into Robert Kiyosaki's website and realized that although the info is legitimate, it's behind a steep pay wall I can't afford.

My search led me here, and here I am. 

I'd like to build passive income through real estate. I've read a few bigger pockets books, but I thrive with like minded company. That's why I'm finally introducing myself.

So... hello!