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All Forum Posts by: JT Spangler

JT Spangler has started 16 posts and replied 260 times.

Post: Historic Duplex

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102
Originally posted by @Luke G.:

No it's not rented out as a boarding style house. It rents for ~1600 a side.

My primary question would be how much more expensive will maintenance be on a house this old?

Using the 1% rule, I'd value the property at 320k. If I look at sq ft to comps I get 370k (but that's including some of the run down houses in the gentrifying neighborhood, not just historic homes). If I'm just looking for positive cash flows, I'd break even at 480k (without factoring in any expenses, just rents=mortgage). They are asking 550k.

 Yikes. I'd get out of there in a hurry if they're wanting 550k. Unless you think they're willing to come down a lot. 

Post: Tenant Breaking Lease - How would you proceed?

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102

Personally, I'd be tempted to either do as poster above suggested, and allow them to exit the lease if they forfeit SD and pay another month's rent (giving proper notice). Failing that, I'd also consider telling them that they are responsible for upholding the lease, which means they have to pay rent and utilities until you're able to get it rented. I'd also tell them that it's not a great time of year to rent a place, and I'd put finding a new tenant on them. Make them take the pictures, create the listing, and show the place. When they have interested applicants, they can apply with you, but you will NOT rent to them if they don't meet your written criteria. 

Alternatively, use it as a lesson learned and add a clause to your lease for what happens if a tenant wants to break a lease or sublet.

Post: How in the World does anybody make money with buy and hold????

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102

Clarksville is a hike. I think you'd get real tired of living that far away from Nashville, especially when it's a thin deal with serious concerns. 

Post: My second (not as easy) multi-unit. Muncie, Indiana

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102

I was up in Muncie over Thanksgiving, as well as Ft. Wayne and Anderson. There are some killer deals around there, looks like.

Post: Small Kitchen: 1 Bedroom AirBnB

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102

I would also ditch the dishwasher. I did a small kitchen in a basement recently, and I found a 16" single bowl sink that ended up looking great and left me with a lot more counter space. 

Post: How in the World does anybody make money with buy and hold????

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102

Coupla things: 

(1) Antioch isn't as hot as Nashville, but still pretty warm. There aren't a lot of GREAT deals around. There are good ones.

(2) You're putting down very little money, which means that you'll (a) be paying PMI (which cuts directly into your cashflow) and (b) while your cashflow is lower, your Cash on Cash returns are much higher. This is just as important a metric when evaluating, IMO. You have a limited amount of cash -- you want it to work as hard for you as it can.

(3) You're owner-occupying, which means you are living for free! To truly evaluate the property you need to run the numbers as if your unit was occupied, because that's money you will get (in fact, you're getting it when you live there in the form of free rent).

(4) Insurance providers vary wildly -- get several quotes. For a 4 unit, they'll be based on the value of the property, and it should be roughly 1k/year per 100k of value (cost to rebuild the house if it burns to the ground, not including the cost of the lot).

Post: What to do about filthy tenant?

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102
Originally posted by @Gail K.:

Since his lease is ending soon, an incentive MAY be that he is more likely to get his security deposit back IF he cleans up his rental unit now.  You can, perhaps include a list of what the charges would be if he doesn't do this when his lease ends, making the cost of you doing this significant (for example, $100 to clean a refrigerator, $150 to clean an oven), etc,

Charging exorbitant cleaning fees is likely illegal, and is certainly unethical. Proceed with caution.

Post: Cash flow vs appreciation?

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102
Originally posted by @James Lindsey:

I never thought about appreciation as gambling but it makes sense. Austin has been on a steady growth incline for the past 50 years with even more jobs and projected growth in the future. So I'm not worried about the market falling out. I am worried though about my novice ability to find and procure a multiplex house hack for my first home that will cash flow nicely. Maybe I am missing something on the calculator.

 You're in a red hot market, and you have no experience and not much cash on hand. It's a tough spot to be in. You want to owner occupy so you can collect more doors for less skin, and that means you can't look in another market since you live in Austin. I think you have 2 options: keep scouring the market for a value add deal (an ugly house, something that needs a lot of cosmetic updates, is in a transitional area, or has a funky layout), or explore some options to add to your bankroll before buying anything.

I was in the same boat as you are a few years ago in an equally red hot market, and it took me nearly a year of looking before I found a deal I could afford and knew I could add value to. I bought it for 150k and two years later it's worth 230k or so. And it cashflows (thanks to appreciation I wasn't counting on and improvements I made).

Post: Common exit strategies for buy and hold investors

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102

Exit strategy is overwhelmingly used by investors to mean exit from a particular deal; not from investing entirely. Exchanging into another property certainly qualifies as an exit strategy, if you're actually reading what is written.

Post: Private notes or simultaneous closings for new homes

JT SpanglerPosted
  • Buy and Hold Investor
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 102

That's awesome! I've been following the tiny house blogs for nearly 8 years now.