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All Forum Posts by: Logan M.

Logan M. has started 136 posts and replied 728 times.

Post: Being the BEST Operator

Logan M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620
Quote from @Kara Johnson:

Would any of you operations gurus be up for a quick conversation? We are wanting to scale and struggling with how to eat the elephant here ; )


 I am always open to a conversation to see if I can give you some tips but I am far from being a perfect Operator

Post: In-Depth Explanation Only listen to investors who are where you want to be.

Logan M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620

Only listen to investors who are where you want to be. There is so much noise out there that is often incorrect.

Real Estate is far too often overcomplicated and confusing. New investors look for guidance only to find constant ads for courses, coaching, and get-rich-quick strategies.

Look at those where you want to be and before you ask them to be your mentor study them, learn from them, and read books about business owners. 

Growing up in a household with 6 siblings and parents working hard to survive living in California I became very observant of what others were doing to make money. I noticed some of the wealthiest people I knew owned real estate. Over the years I became more and more involved with some of those people and as an adult started taking them to lunch to "pick their brain" (Not my favorite term but you get the point).

One of these Gentlemen I have continued to meet with and give him updates on my business. Some of the best advice he gave me was to not be scared or think you are too good to learn something, he gave the example of installing a water heater. 

There are so many people who are further along in life than you who are more than willing to talk and let you ask whatever comes to mind. Some of the information they have will be difficult to learn on your own without going through that experience.

I would suggest going to investor meetings, city council meetings, rotary, church, anywhere you have a large amount of people who are involved in the community.

Post: Every market has deals

Logan M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 737
  • Votes 620

Yesterday, I posted about 5 tips for new investors and multiple comments were to go more in-depth so I will start with my first tip, Every Market has deals.

I will give a few examples:

In 2023, I bought four Mobile Home Parks. One with 38 units on KSL (Like Craigslist), two on the MLS, and another on Facebook Marketplace.

Four of the four were seller-financed, two with 0% down, two with down payments, and one at 0% interest. What I have found is if you go directly to owners and talk about their needs you can often fit them within your buy box. Most sellers are not looking for a chunk of cash they are looking to solve a problem.

If I was starting today I would be going directly to these owners who have listed their properties and have conversations. Don't be scared to ask some hard questions and dive into what they need.

I will wrap this up with three more examples of purchases in 2024.

Last month I bought another mobile home park with nothing down, decent interest, and a ten-year balloon. This was on KSL as well and the sellers were very very motivated.

This year I have also purchased two single-family homes that I am rehabbing and both allow for lot splits so I will have a renovated home to sell or rent and a free and clear lot with each one. Currently, I am planning to build single-family homes on those lots.

Keep this business simple and focused on your niche.

Quote from @Wyatt Wolff:

2 & 5. Don't listen to anyone you aren't willing to trade places with. I don't know who said it originally, but credit to them (Hormozi maybe?)

And 5. Sales will allow you to get yourself into position more rapidly than anything else. Communication is a key aspect in sales, but can be applied more broadly. 


 Alex is legit, he has great business insight

Quote from @Mike Reynolds:
Quote from @Kevin S.:

@Logan M.

Thanks for the tips but these tips are just general tips that probably most of us are already aware of.  What would be helpful are tips that go deeper.  Yeah, different markets are different, every investor's goal and situation is different.  What we want to hear is how you did it, your story, your experience.  In snippets if you would/could.  One story at a time followed by more stories.  Trust me, you will have no shortage of audience.  Now that, would be more meaningful, and helpful.  

To be fair, judging by the “ask about the guru” posts on here, many people might not realize this. The gurus tell you that you can do anything with nearly no money at all. But sometimes it’s just plain old luck and good manners that can get you most deals. 

I’ll tell my story though. 

2019 I was living check to check pretty much. I was on BP and soaked up everything I could. I did a lot of side work to gain some money but it was taking time. I came on a MHP that was a good deal. Smoking deal. I didn’t have the down payment but I had a vacant lot in Galveston county. Most of the people on here told me it wouldn’t refi because it was vacant. I kept trying and one person on here told me that it could. Maybe. He gave me a few pointers on how and it did actually finance. I got 80k off of 100k value. Even though I was cash poor, I had good credit that I had been working on since I’ve been a member of BP. 

Getting the park under contract was the next hurdle. We had competition and they had bucks. I didn’t. We sent one of those “love letters” through our agent and he sold to us for the same price as the other guys offer because he liked us. If fact, he is still in our lives today because he is a valuable resource and now a friend. 

The park should have been a slam dunk at the bank. It was 230,000 with 26 units. But the previous owner only collected cash so we didn’t have an income to draw off of for appraisal. Bank said the land was only worth 200k and that’s all they would loan. They wanted 60k down on that. That only left me with 20k left over that I wanted to use for fixing stuff right away. So how do I get the park now? Was it over?

Went with hat in hand to the owner and asked if he would O/F the 30k. Our goal was to sell the houses and rent the lots. As we sold the houses we would pay on the side note and he would release the title one by one. He agreed. The houses that sold paid off the side note in 8 months or so.

Now, the hardest part was the double close. The bank doing the park kept asking where the money was for the down. I told them it was coming soon. The bank doing the refi was slow slow slow. It was the most aggravating part and I thought it would cost us our deal. We closed on the refi that morning and closed on the park that afternoon. It was that close. 

14 months later and a lot of work, we had it appraised. It was worth 750k and cash flowed nicely from day one. Still does. 

For me, I would say don’t pay a guru when you have thousands of them right here. They don’t always give you the answer you want but they usually give the one need. But also, never give up on your dream. I have more now but the first one is hard to forget. I learned more on that one than any other. 


 Thanks for sharing this is money!

Quote from @Kevin S.:

@Logan M.

Thanks for the tips but these tips are just general tips that probably most of us are already aware of.  What would be helpful are tips that go deeper.  Yeah, different markets are different, every investor's goal and situation is different.  What we want to hear is how you did it, your story, your experience.  In snippets if you would/could.  One story at a time followed by more stories.  Trust me, you will have no shortage of audience.  Now that, would be more meaningful, and helpful.  


 I encourage you to go to my profile and look at some of my previous posts where I go into deeper dives. I focus mainly on smaller multifamily of roughly 10+ units that are non-professionally managed.

This has allowed me to negotiate better deals with great terms. I just responded to another post that was similar to yours and what I will say is that this post would be a novel if I did an adequate job on each point. The purpose of this post was to get new investors introduced to topics that will focus on them.

But for you, I am more than happy to have a conversation about them and see if there is anything I can do to help in your business.

Quote from @Steve Vaughan:
Quote from @Kevin S.:

@Logan M.

Thanks for the tips but...already aware of.  

Maybe after another '194 units' the tips may say something new. 

I only check in once or so a week real quick these days.  Click bait. 


 If more investors followed these tips they would have more units and more money. It must be nice to be retired but most of us on here are still working to get there instead of trolling.

Quote from @Joe S.:
Quote from @Logan M.:

To give everyone just a little background since 2018 I have built a portfolio of 194 rental units. I did this through seller financing, creative purchases, and utilizing other people's money. 


I want to take a moment to give a few quick tips to new investors jumping into this market.

Tip #1 Every market has deals, don't fall for the downers. Investors made a killing buying homes in 2010 when many companies were going under and everyone in real estate panicked.

Tip #2 Only listen to investors who are where you want to be. There is so much noise out there that is often incorrect.

Tip #3 Invest for the long run, it is safer and builds wealth.

Tip #4 Be humble, always be willing to learn, and never let your ego stop that.

Tip #5 Sales skills and communication will have a greater impact on your success than any other skill.


Bonus Tip #6 Stay positive, no matter what happens.

That’s an impressive amount of units. Congratulations!  Did you purchase these with the team or independently?


 Most of them I have independently but for the projects I have brought in partners I am the one managing all of it, I don't have any active partners.

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Logan M.

just curious if you don't mind sharing - of your portfolio, are some of those with partners? 


 It's about half and half and even the ones I have with partners I am at least a 50% owner or more. I have about 45 units through my fund but I am the only manager with a waterfall etc

To give everyone just a little background since 2018 I have built a portfolio of 194 rental units. I did this through seller financing, creative purchases, and utilizing other people's money. 


I want to take a moment to give a few quick tips to new investors jumping into this market.

Tip #1 Every market has deals, don't fall for the downers. Investors made a killing buying homes in 2010 when many companies were going under and everyone in real estate panicked.

Tip #2 Only listen to investors who are where you want to be. There is so much noise out there that is often incorrect.

Tip #3 Invest for the long run, it is safer and builds wealth.

Tip #4 Be humble, always be willing to learn, and never let your ego stop that.

Tip #5 Sales skills and communication will have a greater impact on your success than any other skill.


Bonus Tip #6 Stay positive, no matter what happens.