Has anyone had a good experience investing in a syndicate with strong monthly returns

[Nina Sid]

I just spoke to a few funds such as CRE Diversified Income Fund, Land Vest, Toro Real Estate Partners , Allied Land Investment, Phoenix Hospitality but I am trying to find people that have had good experiences investing in any of these or any other reputable passive investment fund with solid monthly returns.

Thank you!

[Chris Seveney]

Quote from @Nina Sid:

I just spoke to a few funds such as CRE Diversified Income Fund, Land Vest, Toro Real Estate Partners , Allied Land Investment, Phoenix Hospitality but I am trying to find people that have had good experiences investing in any of these or any other reputable passive investment fund with solid monthly returns.

Thank you!

When you spoke with them, what questions did you ask them? How did you vet them? What due diligence did you do on them?

Reason I ask is one of them is two years behind on submitting their financials to the SEC and other required reports. So the first question I would ask is why have these not been submitted?

[Nimra Siddiqi]

Would you mind sharing which one is behind?  How do I check their sec submissions? Is this public info? 

[Bryce Nerland]

@Nina Sid I have not invested in syndications, but my father has. Despite good returns, he recently needed to exit from his positions. During this process, we discovered that there is an industry that resells positions in syndications on the secondary market.

Maybe you ought to look into buying positions in investments that were entered at yesterday‘s interest rates and with an existing track record before looking at the new opportunities. There are some deals out there. Best wishes in your search.

[Nina Sid]

That is great advice. Any idea where I can find these opportunities? 

[Chris Seveney]

Quote from @Bryce Nerland:

@Nina Sid I have not invested in syndications, but my father has. Despite good returns, he recently needed to exit from his positions. During this process, we discovered that there is an industry that resells positions in syndications on the secondary market.

Maybe you ought to look into buying positions in investments that were entered at yesterday‘s interest rates and with an existing track record before looking at the new opportunities. There are some deals out there. Best wishes in your search.

 I would be curious to see where this exists, as it would have to be through a broker dealer channel in order for someone to get compensated for it, and most syndications require GP approval to transfer any position

[Chris Seveney]

Quote from @Nimra Siddiqi:

Would you mind sharing which one is behind?  How do I check their sec submissions? Is this public info? 

 sec edgar search. you will need to know the name of the actual entity - but also you need to understand the process, as the SEC does not tell you who is or is not current, you need to understand the filing requirements etc. 

Before investing in a syndication people should understand the process, the sponsor, capital stack, fees etc. There is a lot to learn as its very different than just buying a stock. 

[Nina Sid]

Quote from @Bryce Nerland:

@Nina Sid I have not invested in syndications, but my father has. Despite good returns, he recently needed to exit from his positions. During this process, we discovered that there is an industry that resells positions in syndications on the secondary market.

Maybe you ought to look into buying positions in investments that were entered at yesterday‘s interest rates and with an existing track record before looking at the new opportunities. There are some deals out there. Best wishes in your search.

 Would you mind naming some of the firms he has invested in? I can't seem to find a forum or resource with investors that can attest to a firm's credibility. I prefer to piggy back off investors with many years of experience in this space than starting from scratch. 

[Evan Polaski]

@Bryce Nerland, I second the request to share this exchange of secondary syndication positions.  I have seen a few try to get started over there last several years, but none seem to have survived (or are really bad at SEO and marketing) since I was not able to find any the several times I have searched.

That being said, I know Cadre has launched a secondaries market for their own investment offerings, but that is limited in scope to Cadre positions, and is currently closed anyways and will be "re-opening soon". 

While buying someone else's position at a potential discount is great, I would rank this endeavor as a magnitude of difference harder than making an initial investment.  In my eyes, all of the same diligence is needed in regard to sponsor and deal(s), but add to that prior operations by that sponsor, current financial analysis, current valuations in today's market with very limited trades happening as comps, what the effect of waterfall and fees will have on that position once you take over, etc.

[Brock Mogensen]

Certain deals/funds will have stronger cashflow vs others are stronger upside. If cashflow is your main priority, I suggest looking for a fund that offers a high preferred return (10%+). However, you do want to make sure the deal has legs to stand on to actually hit the pref.

[Bryce Nerland]

[Ameet Mehta]

Hey Nina Sid! I know a good commercial real estate syndication group, they go by the name of Elevate Commercial Investment Group. They recently orchestrated a remarkable syndication deal and bagged 110% AAR in just under 13 months, which I don’t need to tell you is massive. So you should definitely check them out, maybe get in a conversation to understand their monthly returns for long-term projects. They know what they are doing and I have worked with them previously so I can vouch for their genuinity.

[Chris Seveney]

Quote from @Ameet Mehta:

Hey Nina Sid! I know a good commercial real estate syndication group, they go by the name of Elevate Commercial Investment Group. They recently orchestrated a remarkable syndication deal and bagged 110% AAR in just under 13 months, which I don’t need to tell you is massive. So you should definitely check them out, maybe get in a conversation to understand their monthly returns for long-term projects. They know what they are doing and I have worked with them previously so I can vouch for their genuinity.

 Is it this company?

Texas syndicator Elevate drives another Arbor foreclosure (therealdeal.com)

[Paul Azad]

Quote from @Chris Seveney:

Quote from @Ameet Mehta:

Hey Nina Sid! I know a good commercial real estate syndication group, they go by the name of Elevate Commercial Investment Group. They recently orchestrated a remarkable syndication deal and bagged 110% AAR in just under 13 months, which I don’t need to tell you is massive. So you should definitely check them out, maybe get in a conversation to understand their monthly returns for long-term projects. They know what they are doing and I have worked with them previously so I can vouch for their genuinity.

 Is it this company?

Texas syndicator Elevate drives another Arbor foreclosure (therealdeal.com)

 Chris, you are a scholar and a ninja assassin. You do the most damage with the least exertion, beautiful, ....yeah Elevate owns some of the worst properties in the worst parts of town here in Houston. Their "Selena" which is foreclosed by Arbor is in east houston near ship channel and definitely in "theHood", their "Sophia" is in Greenspoint aka "Guns-point" and you can't get food delivered there without a police escort. The company has properties all over the place from South Dakota to Florida to Oklahoma, so good luck to any investors. 

[Basit Siddiqi]

Quote from @Chris Seveney:

Quote from @Ameet Mehta:

Hey Nina Sid! I know a good commercial real estate syndication group, they go by the name of Elevate Commercial Investment Group. They recently orchestrated a remarkable syndication deal and bagged 110% AAR in just under 13 months, which I don’t need to tell you is massive. So you should definitely check them out, maybe get in a conversation to understand their monthly returns for long-term projects. They know what they are doing and I have worked with them previously so I can vouch for their genuinity.

 Is it this company?

Texas syndicator Elevate drives another Arbor foreclosure (therealdeal.com)

This was bad-***

[Collin Campbell]

Hey Nina - I would encourage you to do due diligence on your investment before going in. Here is a great presentation on how to evaluate a syndication: