Investor · Pleasanton CA · Member since 2020 · 36 posts · 13 votes
I am looking at a condo-hotel investment opportunity in Las Vegas. A condo also is part of a famous hotel in Vegas sold for over 400k in 2005, now it's only 200k. It has been involved in the hotel rental program. ( if you don't use it, hotel can rent it out and split profit w you 50%). Including booking cleaning etc. HOA covers all utilities .
What are the pros and cons in this concept? Anybody has experiences in owing these Condo-tel properties?
I wouldn't do it. The numbers don't make sense. The few people I know that have tried this in Las Vegas in the last 10-years don't have good stories to tell.
Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
6y
Some condotels (like the platinum in specific) will double the Hoa if you use it more than a couple weeks per year rent it out without them too much. It’s a great deal for the hotel operator. You buy the hotel, you cover all the costs, and they take 1/2 the income. ( I had 1/2 the profit, but they take 1/2 the income, way more than 1/2 the profit.)
The biggest financial save I’ve made in not buying a million dollar mgm condo in their rental system right before the crash. Luckily I was bothered by little things like cleaning service not being included in the $1200/mo Hoa. And being told I had access to “all the casinos amenities...” as a benefit.
I’m sure people have made money on the condo only version (not condotel) but with very high fees it’s a little riskier than than houses or even small multis. The only way I would consider it if would be fi you had some 1032 funds to rollover and planned to turn it in to your new primary in a few years. Then I’d look at a straight condo.
Property Manager · Henderson, NV · Member since 2018 · 501 posts · 317 votes
6y
@Sammie Xiao I have analyzed different condo-tel options here in Vegas with a few different investors. So far we have not come to the conclusion that is makes financial sense as a strict rental property. However, if one were to use the condo-tel as a vacation home (visiting Vegas often) then that changes the equation a bit.
I wouldn't do it. The numbers don't make sense. The few people I know that have tried this in Las Vegas in the last 10-years don't have good stories to tell.
I have a friend owning a studio at Palm Place. Is pretty dead at the moment. At better times is about little better than breakeven but this was with 33% fees I think. With 50% this won't make much sense. HOA are like 500-700ish. Now there are also no conventions in Vegas !