Our Second BRRRR Investment, now waiting on the refi!

Our Second BRRRR Investment, now waiting on the refi!

Derek SperzelPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Jeffersonville, IN · Member since 2012 · 72 posts · 40 votes

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Clarksville.

Purchase price: $56,000
Cash invested: $56,000

This will be a BRRRR property, we purchased it for $56k, invested $22k on the rehab, and will rent for $1,000-1,050 per month. The ARV will be $130k and we'll refinance into a 30yr fixed mortgage after the 6-month seasoning period. We will actually pull out $97,500 with the refi (130,000 x 75% LTV). That means we'll be pulling out $19,500 more than we initially invested!

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

This deal penciled out great, and it is in a neighborhood that we love to buy in.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Our painter brought us this deal, while not the first one he has brought us, it is the first one that we were able to purchase. The sellers had already spoken with another investor who also wrote them an offer. We took the time to build rapport with the sellers, we listened to their needs, I think that made all the difference, and ultimately why they chose us. They also left us two great reviews on our Sperzel Properties Facebook page!

How did you finance this deal?

Our own cash.

How did you add value to the deal?

We converted an upstairs laundry room back into a bedroom, we finished a large area in the basement to create an extra family space, and we enclosed the original carport creating a one car garage.

What was the outcome?

Overall we are pleased with the numbers, and they came out pretty close to our projections. The biggest surprise was finding out that the "minor repairs" our inspector noted about the roof ended up resulting in an entire replacement roof. That overage put us over budget by $5,500. Our tenant moved in on 4/29/19.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Get a second opinion anytime an inspector notes a repair may be needed on a major item such as a roof. We likely could have negotiated a better purchase price before closing. Also, always ask sellers to write you a testimonial on any public business page you might have and build your credibility!

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

We utilized a local Title company, and I would highly recommend Allen and Drew Hoffer at WT&S Title in New Albany, Indiana.

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  • Loan Officer / Processor / Life & Health Agent · Rancho Cucamonga, CA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 757 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Derek Sperzel:

    Investment Info:

    Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Clarksville.

    Purchase price: $56,000

    Cash invested: $56,000

    This will be a BRRRR property, we purchased it for $56k, invested $22k on the rehab, and will rent for $1,000-1,050 per month. The ARV will be $130k and we'll refinance into a 30yr fixed mortgage after the 6-month seasoning period. We will actually pull out $97,500 with the refi (130,000 x 75% LTV). That means we'll be pulling out $19,500 more than we initially invested!

    What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

    This deal penciled out great, and it is in a neighborhood that we love to buy in.

    How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

    Our painter brought us this deal, while not the first one he has brought us, it is the first one that we were able to purchase. The sellers had already spoken with another investor who also wrote them an offer. We took the time to build rapport with the sellers, we listened to their needs, I think that made all the difference, and ultimately why they chose us. They also left us two great reviews on our Sperzel Properties Facebook page!

    How did you finance this deal?

    Our own cash.

    How did you add value to the deal?

    We converted an upstairs laundry room back into a bedroom, we finished a large area in the basement to create an extra family space, and we enclosed the original carport creating a one car garage.

    What was the outcome?

    Overall we are pleased with the numbers, and they came out pretty close to our projections. The biggest surprise was finding out that the "minor repairs" our inspector noted about the roof ended up resulting in an entire replacement roof. That overage put us over budget by $5,500. Our tenant moved in on 4/29/19.

    Lessons learned? Challenges?

    Get a second opinion anytime an inspector notes a repair may be needed on a major item such as a roof. We likely could have negotiated a better purchase price before closing. Also, always ask sellers to write you a testimonial on any public business page you might have and build your credibility!

    Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

    We utilized a local Title company, and I would highly recommend Allen and Drew Hoffer at WT&S Title in New Albany, Indiana.

    If you bought the home cash you can get your money out right away using delayed financing. Your LTV on the new appraised value would be 70% however. As stated if you wait for 6 months you can get up to 75% on an SFR.

  • Investor · Malakoff, TX · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    Refi numbers look great. Rent to ARV not so great.

  • Derek SperzelPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Jeffersonville, IN · Member since 2012 · 72 posts · 40 votes
    7y

    @Shaun Weekes are you talking about a commercial loan? In my experience, I can utilize delayed financing(residential loan) 1 day after purchase, but only for the amount of the HUD Statement. Except, if I were to escrow repair money with my contractor prior to closing, and that amount was documented on the HUD. Is there another option that I am unaware of?

  • Derek SperzelPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Jeffersonville, IN · Member since 2012 · 72 posts · 40 votes
    7y

    @Eric James I agree with you. I think it is time to start researching another market that offers a higher rent versus ARV.

  • Camano Island, WA · Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Thanks for posting, good read! Congratulations!

  • Real Estate Agent · Brentwood, CA · Member since 2018 · 285 posts · 225 votes
    7y

    @Derek Sperzel - Congrats man! My boss literally wrote the book on BRRRR and this is a textbook example. Way to go! I'm sure after it's all said and done it just inspires you to get out there and do it over and over again!

  • Loan Officer / Processor / Life & Health Agent · Rancho Cucamonga, CA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 757 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Derek Sperzel:

    @Shaun Weekes are you talking about a commercial loan? In my experience, I can utilize delayed financing(residential loan) 1 day after purchase, but only for the amount of the HUD Statement. Except, if I were to escrow repair money with my contractor prior to closing, and that amount was documented on the HUD. Is there another option that I am unaware of?

     I was talking about a regular Fannie loan.  6 months is going to give you new appraised value and won't have any limits on cash out above the purchase price.  So you're doing the right thing by waiting.

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