Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Real Estate Deal Analysis & Advice
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 7 years ago,

User Stats

20
Posts
5
Votes
Rick L.
  • Investor
  • New Haven, CT
5
Votes |
20
Posts

Help! I'm bad at math or doing something wrong

Rick L.
  • Investor
  • New Haven, CT
Posted

Hello BP,

I have two properties and looking to purchase a third. I keep doing the numbers and feel like the numbers are showing bad deals, but it doesn't make sense to me how they can be. 

I know I need to re-read some of the books, etc. but advice will be greatly appreciated! Am I misreading this, and it's actually a good deal? Am I improperly estimating the expense and income increases that's affecting profitability? Looking at the numbers CAPEX and repairs add a huge amount to the monthly expenses.

For instance, this third deal:

Monthly Income: $1,100

Monthly Expenses $1,134.14

Monthly Cashflow: -$34.14

Pro Forma Cap: 5.22%

NOI: $5,215

Total Cash Needed: $11,050

Cash on Cash ROI: -3.71%

Purchase Cap Rate: $5.73

Sale Price: $91,000

Closing Costs: $2,500

Renovation Costs: $4,550 (5%)

TOTAL PROJECT COSTS: $98,050

Down Payment: $4,550 (5%)

Loan Amount: $87,314.5

Loan Points: $864.5 (1%)

Amortized: 30 years

Interest Rate: 5%

P&I: 468.72

Total Cash Needed: $11,050

Property Taxes: $2,184/yr

2% Rule: 1.13%

Initial Equity: $12,685.50

Gross Rent Multiplier: 6.89

Debt Coverage Ratio: 0.93

Expense Increase: 4%/yr

Income Increase: 5%/yr

Property Value Increase: 4%/yr

Cash on Cash ROI: YR1 (-3.71%) YR2 (-0.63%) YR5 (2.64%) YR10 (9.76%) YR15 (31.56%)

Annualized Total Return: YR1 (2.48%) YR2 (22.27%) YR5 (26.37%) YR10 (26.47%) YR15 (22.20%)

Total Profit if sold: YR1 ($274) YR2 ($5,469) YR5 ($11,251) YR10 ($24,701) YR15 ($70,982)

Expenses:

HOA: $82

Insurance: $66

Taxes: $182

MTG: $468.72 (@5%)

TOTAL: $798.72

Vacancy: $110 (10%)

CAPEX: $190/mo (~2.5%)

Repairs & Maint: $380/mo (5%)

TOTAL EXPENSES: $1,478.72

These expenses are different than the $1,134.14 mentioned early on. That number was used and still gave a negative ROI, etc. meaning the current numbers you see just above make the picture even worse.

Please advise, and thanks!

Rick

Loading replies...