Finding teams for flips in out of state markets

Finding teams for flips in out of state markets

Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 11 votes

Hello,

My wife and I are out of country investors from Canada that are nearing completion of our first 2 flips, in totally different markets with different teams.  I have found that for flipping, the team is more important than the specific market.  Meaning, if we have the right people to help us, that's got the biggest impact on our potential success.  The market of course needs to have some opportunity, but that can be any market where the team is right.  

Wholesaler/realtor/ontractor

As a realtor myself, when I work with investors, especially those that are not local, its imperative to find the right house with the end goal in mind. It needs to make sense in so many different ways, so having the right realtor to do that is imperative. Then of course having a contractor that cares about the project and that does good work and is trustworthy. We find it best when the realtor already has a relationship with the contractor and can help as a project "overseer". Not just to help us, it is also in the realtors best interest to make sure that the house turns is completed in a way that will hit the projected ARV. Having a wholesaler to source off market deals is also great, even better when they have a contractor to do the work, and a realtor to substantiate pp and comps for ARV and then to list. Its tough to find all these right people separately and bring them together, we feel its much better when we can meet a team that is already established to help everyone better succeed.

We plan to use one of our teams again (realtor/contractor) but are hoping to find other teams to work in within their respective markets and would like to connect.  Finding these teams is what we are working on now, and could use some help.

We have also found that while we build up our experience, the fix and flip loan financing still requires a significant down payment, 30-40% of the purchase price.  I am told that once we have at least 3 completed flips that this will improve and we can get it down to 10-15% and then perhaps even lower with more experience.  In the meantime however, we are also hoping to find a team that has a member that could partner on a deal with us so that their experience can get us better financing.  

I'd be happy to get any feedback or guidance on finding these teams.  Thank you.

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Real Estate Agent · Raleigh NC · Member since 2023 · 38 posts · 29 votes
3y

Elliott, I love the ambition. I've got wholesaler connections, contractor connections, and I'm an agent myself in the Raleigh Durham area, one of the hottest markets in the US! And I have access to a hard money lending broker with multiple lending options. Would love to chat!

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  • Realtor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2019 · 274 posts · 191 votes
    3y

    Hi @Elliot Mould- I love that you are also an investment focused agent! I work with many clients who are not local. I am currently licensed in Chicago and Colorado and would love to connect further to see how I can help you to meet your goals. I was an investor before I became an agent so I know how difficult it can be to find investor focused teams. Happy to help however I can!

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Elliot Mould:

    Hello,

    My wife and I are out of country investors from Canada that are nearing completion of our first 2 flips, in totally different markets with different teams.  I have found that for flipping, the team is more important than the specific market.  Meaning, if we have the right people to help us, that's got the biggest impact on our potential success.  The market of course needs to have some opportunity, but that can be any market where the team is right.  

    Wholesaler/realtor/ontractor

    As a realtor myself, when I work with investors, especially those that are not local, its imperative to find the right house with the end goal in mind. It needs to make sense in so many different ways, so having the right realtor to do that is imperative. Then of course having a contractor that cares about the project and that does good work and is trustworthy. We find it best when the realtor already has a relationship with the contractor and can help as a project "overseer". Not just to help us, it is also in the realtors best interest to make sure that the house turns is completed in a way that will hit the projected ARV. Having a wholesaler to source off market deals is also great, even better when they have a contractor to do the work, and a realtor to substantiate pp and comps for ARV and then to list. Its tough to find all these right people separately and bring them together, we feel its much better when we can meet a team that is already established to help everyone better succeed.

    We plan to use one of our teams again (realtor/contractor) but are hoping to find other teams to work in within their respective markets and would like to connect.  Finding these teams is what we are working on now, and could use some help.

    We have also found that while we build up our experience, the fix and flip loan financing still requires a significant down payment, 30-40% of the purchase price.  I am told that once we have at least 3 completed flips that this will improve and we can get it down to 10-15% and then perhaps even lower with more experience.  In the meantime however, we are also hoping to find a team that has a member that could partner on a deal with us so that their experience can get us better financing.  

    I'd be happy to get any feedback or guidance on finding these teams.  Thank you.


     Hi whom are you flipping to end user or investor? 

    YES I have posted 100xs TEAM is what it is all about. I see so many getting crushed as they did not have a team in place

  • Member since 2022 · 11 posts · 11 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Bob S.:

     Hi whom are you flipping to end user or investor? 

    YES I have posted 100xs TEAM is what it is all about. I see so many getting crushed as they did not have a team in place

    At this time, I think our main focus is an end user.  We haven't really considered doing a flip, rent, sell to investor type deal.  I see that you are in Cleveland, we'd certainly be interested in considering this area as we have already spent some time in the city checking out areas.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Elliot Mould:
    Quote from @Bob S.:

     Hi whom are you flipping to end user or investor? 

    YES I have posted 100xs TEAM is what it is all about. I see so many getting crushed as they did not have a team in place

    At this time, I think our main focus is an end user.  We haven't really considered doing a flip, rent, sell to investor type deal.  I see that you are in Cleveland, we'd certainly be interested in considering this area as we have already spent some time in the city checking out areas.


     Hi well all you need to do is connect with those doing deals in the area 

    All the best 

  • Real Estate Agent · Raleigh NC · Member since 2023 · 38 posts · 29 votes
    3y

    Elliott, I love the ambition. I've got wholesaler connections, contractor connections, and I'm an agent myself in the Raleigh Durham area, one of the hottest markets in the US! And I have access to a hard money lending broker with multiple lending options. Would love to chat!

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    Real Estate Agent · Chicago & NWI · Member since 2015 · 860 posts · 521 votes
    3y

    Hey @Elliot Mould - that's really awesome to hear that you have already completed 2 flips as an out of state investor. Which states specifically have you done this in?

    & as a realtor AND investor, I agree that you have to find the right team, communicate regularly on expectations. I have worked with many out of state investors, currently one right now with an investor from California that is flipping in Chicago. There were definitely some curve balls thrown at them, but we were able to pivot and figure the issues out. A little more work for the realtor lol but I hope you find your 3rd deal and you can get better financing. 

  • Real Estate Consultant · Cleveland · Member since 2020 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Eudith Vacio:

    Hey @Elliot Mould - that's really awesome to hear that you have already completed 2 flips as an out of state investor. Which states specifically have you done this in?

    & as a realtor AND investor, I agree that you have to find the right team, communicate regularly on expectations. I have worked with many out of state investors, currently one right now with an investor from California that is flipping in Chicago. There were definitely some curve balls thrown at them, but we were able to pivot and figure the issues out. A little more work for the realtor lol but I hope you find your 3rd deal and you can get better financing. 


     I live on the beach in FL and do all my business, ( 100s and 100s of deals ) OOS. Its all about knowledge and your team 

    All the best 

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