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Mark Brogan
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why tenants pay or dont pay

Mark Brogan
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what is everyone thoughts on why they think tenants pay on time or why they they don't pay at all

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Richard Balsam
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Richard Balsam
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I've been doing lease options for over 13 years now. Yes, I've become skeptical with tenants ever trying to improve their condition. Why do I say that? Only a handful over all these years actually live by the lease rule, pay on time, take care of the house, and improve their credit scores enough to try at refinancing the home and excersize their option to buy the home. We even help by taking the few that are trying, and do take care of the house, and we owner finance them so they become the true owner on the home with our assistance. We then become their "lender" for a few years while they continue to improve their credit and financial picture.

That said, here is what I find when I take back the home ( read: evict and/or they move out before the lease is up): new 50-60 inch flat screen TV boxes in the garage, DirecTV set tops in all bedrooms ( that they do not live up to the original agreement with DirecTV and return the rented boxes), all of our original lightbulbs replaced with odd, irregular, different color bulbs in most of the lamp sockets ( a 5 socket light fixture that we installed with the correct bulbs will have 3 bulbs at most- none matching - why?!!), motor oil stored in the garage, usually a dead battery there as well, etc. What to make of this?

They have been given a chance to move in and hopefully own a very upgraded home will all upgrades that they could never right now afford, and they are too lazy to: recycle dead batteries ( it's hard to drop off at most car supply stores, Sears, etc), do not live up to agreements with any company ( landlord, DirectV, Dish TV, etc), Always switch jobs ( I approve the lease based on their incomes, and they wait until moved in and then change - as if they know how the landlord "game" is played), etc. Nothing is permanent in their lives. The house is usually extremely dirty after one year - with the same air filter installed -(after I show them how to change it at the lease signing, and it is spelled out to change four times per year), weeds in the yard ( too hard to pull them out as they become big I assume), many times- cars parked half on the grass ( we always have two car driveways and garages - and it is spelled out in the lease not to do this), etc. I could go on- but you see the point. I've had to re-do most of our lease option homes 3-4-5 times over the years with new carpet, paint, stoves that have never been cleaned - since they moved it. etc. 

All the above translates into: LAZY, not interested in improving their lives, not trying hard enough at work ( if their home is a mess - imagine them at work!), inattention to actual contracts - and what they sign they need to follow, poor money management, and do not have any idea or care less about what neighbors may think, or feel, living next to a house that is deteriorating in front of their eyes. Yes- I evict these people quickly when I see it - but cannot babysit everyone every month. But I do drive the houses a few times per year just to make sure our homes are still standing!!! 

Oh - I have heard from a few honest ones that they cannot pay the rent this month because they have a car repair, had to visit a dying relative, funeral, lost their job, hours were cut, school tuition was due for their son, etc. Yes- I think I've heard it all by now - they use the rent to pay other things far beyond their budget. I think this is your answer!

In case you're wondering...the owner financed families we have - many fall behind - but find a way to get caught up, take care of their home, and even thank me, and many have referred their friends to me who are looking for a home. But...overall, life is good. Just have to dispose of the ones with the excuses, dirty houses, etc. In Georgia- takes 2-3 weeks and they get tossed out ( using eviction companies). My fastest was 10 days from the initial paperwork filing to evict to tossing out. He was a special case...

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