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Updated over 4 years ago, 03/04/2020

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Primary Home Refinance using IRRRL

David Cornett
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
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Given some basic numbers - is refinance recommended?

Original loan terms

30 years at 4.625%

Loan is 12 months old at this point

Refinance at 3.625%

Total cost to refinance is $6500

Currently a primary residence, but intent is to turn into rental in next 3 years.

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Scott Jensen
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What is the balance of the loan you are refinancing?

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    David Cornett
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    @Scott Jensen

    $272,000

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    Scott Jensen
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    These are rough numbers but a percent decease in interest rate will save you about 1 percent of the balance per year. 2,700 in interest savings in year 1.

    It costs you $6,500 and you will make that amount back plus more in 3 years. It definitely makes sense to do the refi.

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    @Scott Jensen thanks for your response, the statement I have based on actual numbers is 41 months to recoup.

    I thought that was worth it, but I wasn’t sure what the “norm” is, or what other criteria have for assessing.

    Thanks again!

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    @Scott Jensen

    Update: now six months into the refinance. The lender reached out and as part of their “loyalty” program, I can refinance again, no fees upfront or rolled into the loan. However, in obviously refinancing into another 30 year loan.

    I haven’t moved forward yet, but we are looking at going from 3.625% to 3 or 3.125%, does this make sense to go through with the refinance?

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    @Scott Jensen

    https://www.clearpathlending.com/loyalty/

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    @David Cornett if there's no fees or closing costs I would take a 100 year loan at 3.125%. Obviously I don't know your situation, so I cannot provide specific advice, but this is as close to a free lunch as you get.

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