My buyer needs financing - $80k down on $140k house - short term

My buyer needs financing - $80k down on $140k house - short term

Real Estate Investor · Greenback, TN · Member since 2012 · 269 posts · 115 votes

I have a buyer for one of my fully renovated houses that's ready to make an $80k down payment (sale price is $145k) but she can't get her financing approved.  My bank was going to finance the deal but new Dodd-Frank employment history requirements prevented it.  She only needs seven more months of employment to qualify for a mortgage.  After that, she plans to secure a mortgage for the remaining $65k balance. There's virtually no risk with this deal because of the enormous down payment. The worst case scenario would be that the investor would foreclose on the $65k balance and have a recently renovated house worth more than double their investment.  I would be willing to help manage the entire process for out of town investors.  

Here's a few more details.  Let me know if you want to finance the deal or know someone who might.  

Thanks! 

Mike Woodward 865-773-4226

- Address: 3233 Chilhowee Heights Rd, Maryville, TN 37803

- Website with pictures and details: Local MLS listing

- Recently appraised by Renasant bank at $140,000

- Buyer Stats: Currently employed (11 months total, 5 months at current job), Divorced one year ago, Stay at home mom prior, Very little credit history, Father lives with her and is willing to co-sign the note

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Don KonipolBusiness Member
Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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@Michael Woodward , the real risk for a lender in this deal is that the loan will not comply with the Safe Act nor the directives issued by the CFPB.  Institutional lenders are rejecting this loan for just that reason.  A private lender is subject to the same regulations and ultimately the same consequences.  

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  • Don KonipolBusiness Member
    Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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    @Michael Woodward , the real risk for a lender in this deal is that the loan will not comply with the Safe Act nor the directives issued by the CFPB.  Institutional lenders are rejecting this loan for just that reason.  A private lender is subject to the same regulations and ultimately the same consequences.  

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  • Lender · Granite Bay, CA · Member since 2014 · 456 posts · 454 votes
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    @Michael Woodward 

    Looks like a great opportunity for the right investor. I would do it, but I only loan my own money in California. 50% LTV and less is very attractive to investors, so I am guessing you will find someone soon. Good luck!

  • Real Estate Investor · Greenback, TN · Member since 2012 · 269 posts · 115 votes
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    @Don Konipol 

    Thanks for your input. I appreciate it!  I understand why financing regulations tightened but it's a little frustrating to have a solid deal like this fall short because of current rules. My local banker said it was a "lay-up" if it weren't for Dodd-Frank.  Thanks again!

    @David Oldenburg 

    Thank you also for your reply!  I'm glad to hear that it's an attractive deal.  If I were a lender, I would like it too.  It's just not my business model.  Too bad you aren't in TN!! 

  • Clay SmithBusiness Member
    Investor · Louisville, KY · Member since 2013 · 419 posts · 244 votes
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    have her dad buy it 20% down, lease option his daughter, and rent at cost. She can gift 20% to him and secure with an option.  Sell it over later himself.  Also have him add daughter as user to an old credit card to boost her avg age of credit and score.

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  • Clay SmithBusiness Member
    Investor · Louisville, KY · Member since 2013 · 419 posts · 244 votes
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    Originally posted by @Don Konipol:

    @Michael Woodward , the real risk for a lender in this deal is that the loan will not comply with the Safe Act nor the directives issued by the CFPB.  Institutional lenders are rejecting this loan for just that reason.  A private lender is subject to the same regulations and ultimately the same consequences.  

     Why would this be a concern for a PM or HM lender? Couldn't they get out after a few months of seasoning?

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  • Don KonipolBusiness Member
    Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
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    @Clay Smith Any residential loan on a primary residence or for a consumer purpose is subject to the SAFE Act and to the regulations of the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau.  The Act as well as the Bureau regulations put severe responsibilities and liabilities onto the shoulder of lenders in this space.  Consequences for violating or being found by a court to have violated any of these regulations are catastrophic, financially.

    For an example, if a lender lends to a home buyer, who does not qualify under acceptable income guidelines for a loan of the type and size granted, he is subject to a loss of principal up to $100,000 and all the attorney fees of the borrower should the borrower proof victorious in a lawsuit.  And you can bet that if the borrower misses payments, and the lender moves to foreclose, the borrower will be contacted by multiple attorneys eager to represent them in a lawsuit against the lender.

    Some additional regulations on consumer real estate lending; 6 months additional time is added to whatever State regulations are before a foreclosure action can be started; the lender must agree to consider the borrower's request for modification and the borrower's request for reconsideration of original request - both of which are required BEFORE the 6 months additional time count begins; the lender must have a formal policy regarding modification requests; if the note has a balloon payment then the borrower must qualify for monthly payments as if the loan was fully amortized over the time from beginning to the balloon is due, not at the actual payments; thereby effectively eliminating almost all balloon notes.

    This is why only the very uniformed or very naive would lend in this scenario.

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  • Queen Creek, AZ · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    There are some exemptions to DF if you hold the property in your name (not an LLC) and have not seller financed anything in the last 12 months.

    Let me know if that is the case and I can point you to an RMLO that can work with you to originate the loan.  You would probably have to hold the note until she refinances.

  • Real Estate Investor · Greenback, TN · Member since 2012 · 269 posts · 115 votes
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    @Clay Smith I don't want to get too fancy with the arrangements.  It needs to be very clean and easy or it will take too much of my time and carry too much risk.  Thanks for your input though.

    @Bob E. , I really don't want to carry the note for any period so I'm going to let the buyer try to find something that works.  It looks like she might have found someone that can get it done.  If not, I'll move on to the next buyer.  Thanks!

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