Tax Implications of Paying Off Mortgage Shared With Son ...

Tax Implications of Paying Off Mortgage Shared With Son ...

Naperville, IL · Member since 2018 · 330 posts · 357 votes

So this is just a what if situation that my family asked me about at a reunion last weekend that got me thinking.  We have two kids,  and two years ago my husband and older son went together on a mortgage (that son could not have afforded himself) and the title is in both their names, as is the mortgage.  Husband is NOT a cosigner, but joint on the mortgage.  Son lives there with a roommate. We have access to the mortgage company site so we know he pays on time and doesn't harm our credit rating.  There is complete trust there, that's not the question.  We are about to do the same for the other son.  In both cases we put down just 5% as a gift to them, $9000 in both cases, so under the gift tax limit.  

I have two siblings who also had sons in 1992 and one of them said "so, if you won the lottery and paid off the mortgage, they wouldn't even have to pay the gift tax, would they?"  I had never considered this, and it's not going to happen, as we don't play the lottery.  But the concept of paying down their mortgages without them incurring the gift tax was an interesting one.  Since we aren't going to actually DO it, I don't want to pay my CPA or my attorney to answer this question, but I was wondering...did my brother stumble across a tax loophole?  I can't seem to find the answer on the Internet.

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  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Nancy P.:

    So this is just a what if situation that my family asked me about at a reunion last weekend that got me thinking.  We have two kids,  and two years ago my husband and older son went together on a mortgage (that son could not have afforded himself) and the title is in both their names, as is the mortgage.  Husband is NOT a cosigner, but joint on the mortgage.  Son lives there with a roommate. We have access to the mortgage company site so we know he pays on time and doesn't harm our credit rating.  There is complete trust there, that's not the question.  We are about to do the same for the other son.  In both cases we put down just 5% as a gift to them, $9000 in both cases, so under the gift tax limit.  

    I have two siblings who also had sons in 1992 and one of them said "so, if you won the lottery and paid off the mortgage, they wouldn't even have to pay the gift tax, would they?"  I had never considered this, and it's not going to happen, as we don't play the lottery.  But the concept of paying down their mortgages without them incurring the gift tax was an interesting one.  Since we aren't going to actually DO it, I don't want to pay my CPA or my attorney to answer this question, but I was wondering...did my brother stumble across a tax loophole?  I can't seem to find the answer on the Internet.

    The donor pays the gift tax, not the donee. 

    Also unless your payment to your son’s portion of the mortgage is more than your life time exemption, you don’t owe any gift tax. The exemption is $11 million right now and might/will decrease in the coming years. 

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  • Naperville, IL · Member since 2018 · 330 posts · 357 votes
    5y

    Thanks.  I didn't realize the donor paid the gift tax.  The gift would be far below the threshold,  each kid is in a property valued around $180K.  But here is the question.  We can give at most $30K per year to a person ($15K each presently.)  If my husband paid off the mortgage tomorrow, around $170K,  would that or would that not be considered a $170K gift to our son, exceeding the yearly limit?  Or would we have to structure it as yearly payments of only $30K (I am not on the mortgage or the title but I could still give him $15K that he could then apply to the mortgage if he so chose.)  Again, just a thought experiment,  we are not in a position to do this.

  • Morris County, NJ · Member since 2020 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Nancy P.

    Donating $15k/$30k a year is an estate planning tool.  So yes, you could slowly donate under the tax limit.  Also, don't forget about spouses...  You and your husband can donate to your daughter-in-law (you have 2 sons?) for another $30k.  So, you could be transferring $60k in wealth a year.  I hear some people transfer entire properties over years like that somehow.  Consult a professional.

    If you donated $170k, then I believe you/husband would pay tax on $140k unless you claimed it as part of the $11M lifetime exemption.

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    5y

    @Nancy P. There will be No gift tax. If you give more than the $15k/yr/person, you simply have to fill out a form and it Then counts against your $11M exemption. Under the “limit” you just don’t have to fill out the form. 

  • Naperville, IL · Member since 2018 · 330 posts · 357 votes
    5y

    OK,  thanks for the explanations.  Clearly it's not an area I'm familiar with.  I still wonder, though...if my husband paid off a mortgage that HE is on, NOT as a cosigner,  would it be considered a gift in any aspect to the other person on the mortgage?  Or just a person paying off his mortgage?

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