Modern Estate Plans

Modern Estate Plans

Attorney · Wilsonville, OR · Member since 2017 · 504 posts · 411 votes

Do you have your Estate Plan / Trust in place? If not, then you are not protected from wealth destruction and the Big 4.

Most come on Bigger Pockets to learn to invest and build connections. Then they realize the need to protect their assets and the importance of creating an Asset Protection system. However, most put off the most important aspect of Asset Protection / Wealth Preservation. Their Estate Plan. Asset Protection is not just about preventing liabilities. A true asset protection plan involves protecting you from the Big 4 wealth destroyers:

1. Devastating healthcare expenses;

2. Remarriages after the death of the first spouse;

3. Your children’s own divorce or death before their spouse; and

4. Judgments from lawsuits.

Most asset protection attorneys stop at, and only focus on, judgment protection, and most estate plans do nothing to prevent the other three. They only focus on death taxes and probate avoidance. Neither of which are relevant in todays time. Death taxes and probate are outdated concerns and are not what destroy modern day wealth.

Current estate planning is NOT serving modern society and families. An out of control litigious society, and the things that really eat up modern family wealth have nothing to do with what consumers would expect. Your standard estate plan is still 100 years behind the times, and families have devastating costs due to poor traditional and outdated estate planning that have nothing to do with asset protection.

Estate Planning is Dead! It ignores the things that are destroying families, destroying financial independence, and destroying wealth in modern society. They do nothing to protect family assets from the modern enemies of your legacy.

The good news is we are living a lot longer, the bad news is we are not prepared for it, and the financial and legal services industries are very traditional and slow to evolve.

The federal death tax increased in 2000 from $675k per couple to $5,45M per couple. So the modern estate tax impacts less than two-tenths of 1 percent (0.02%) of American’s, unless you live in a state like Oregon. One simple planning devise most do in their estate plans is to combine the estate tax exemption for each spouse in a trust (called an A/B trust). This preserves the estate tax credit and passes it along to the surviving spouse so when the surviving spouse dies, the children could use both parents estate tax credits in the same estate. But, if you live in a state like lets say Oregon that still has death taxes and that still requires the payment of the surviving B estate side, the A/B Trust does not offer much help. And if you are not one of the (0.02%ers), your not affected, so the AB Trust is outdated anyways.

What you really need is a modern up to date estate plan that focuses on current modern wealth destroyers. You must have Medicaid Triggers! Planning for unconscious states, not just transferring property at death. We will spend more time in unconscious states and in long-term care. The ability to move assets around while one parent or spouse is unconscious and to pay for long term care and to qualify for Medicaid is necessary. Long Term Care Insurance. And if you have kids, not just guardians, but temporary guardians like your babysitter or neighbor who can take care of your children while the long term guardian arrives, That way you avoid child services and the long court system. Especially if your named guardians do not live in the state. 

When you look for a law firm or lawyer to draft your estate plan, do not just price shop. You get what you pay for. 

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  • Attorney · Wilsonville, OR · Member since 2017 · 504 posts · 411 votes
    7y

    Keep in mind / pay attention that in CA an ineligible asset transfer will trigger a 30 month look back period. 

  • Attorney · Wilsonville, OR · Member since 2017 · 504 posts · 411 votes
    7y

    talk to your estate plan lawyers about ways to transfer assets into proper exempt trusts and other exempt assets, and the timing of transfers with possible long term care insurance as buffer for any look back periods. Then calculate any paybacks that you may be able to apply to decrease your waiting time. Everybody will be different with their eligibility requirements, waiting periods etc. So start planning before your 65 years old. If you can transfer your assets before the need for long term care then the 5 year period will be obsolete and then you can use long term care as a buffer. 

  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @Brian Bradley , thanks

    Would you mind sharing the types of trust and what is best for different cases? Maybe in the different post. 

    How trust can hold the Business Entities?

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  • Attorney · Wilsonville, OR · Member since 2017 · 504 posts · 411 votes
    7y

    @Ashish Acharya this would be one of those areas where it will change state by state and even county by county. So would really have to get in touch with an elder law estate attorney who drafts estate plans for medicaid triggers. Though the national look back period is 60 months, it can change state by state and county by county. Also, each state will have various truss called some derivative of "pooled trusts" to transfer assets into that are exempt, but their are pros and cons of those, and other lawyers like to use the combination of revocable and irrevocable trusts and combine them both and then use long term care insurance during the look back period to cover them. It is also going to be very asset specific on what asset to transfer into what trusts and if to grant the grantor or the beneficiary access to the principle. As you can tell their are lots of options and variables. Not a cooky cutter process and just dumping it all in lets say a 'living trust'. Lots of moving parts and variables to balance. State & County look back times, assets, beneficiary or charity, amount of control and monthly expenses,  payback amount if possible to decrease waiting period, the right amount and combination of when to transfer the assets before you need to file for medicaid along with the use of long term care insurance as a buffer. 

    The name of the game is just getting the assets out of the application spouses name and into exempt assets and or exempt asset holding trusts (or a combination) without triggering the look back period or decreasing the amount of penalty time.

  • Attorney · Wilsonville, OR · Member since 2017 · 504 posts · 411 votes
    7y

    Guardianship avoidance is a big part of asset protection for estate planning. You must plan ahead. Stay the master of your own destiny. To keep you aging in our own community as you go forward in your own life. How do we keep you at home, how to keep you vital and how to keep you in control of your own things, your own property and your own home? This is the essence of estate planning and aging with dignity and in control of your destiny. This planning will detail planning for healthcare expenses, prolonged unconscious states where you spouse or child will have to make fast decisions for care and assets, where court delays are matters of life or death. Talk to an elder law attorney familiar with medicaid planning and asset protection. Just any estate planning attorney or elder law attorney will not cut it. You get what you pay for. Take your time to find the right attorney that can help you control your later years. 

  • Attorney · Wilsonville, OR · Member since 2017 · 504 posts · 411 votes
    7y

    @Ashish Acharya   a common medicaid asset protection trust is a Power Irrevocable trust. By using an irrevocable trust to hold estate assets, the grantor is no longer in control of the assets, rather the trustee now has the task of controlling the assets. Once assets are conveyed into the medicaid irrevocable asset protection trust, they generally will not count against them, and the client will become eligible to medicaid and have long-term care and nursing home costs covered. Since the assets are held by their irrevocable trust, instead of the client / recipient, the government does not count those assets for qualification purposes. SO LONG AS neither the person applying for medicaid nor their spouse has direct access to the principle nor named as the trustee. The client sill gets the benefits of the assets in the trusts. The provisions in the trust are set to where the beneficiaries received the assets after death, just like a normal trust.

    The goal is to dissociate the client from the assets. That way they are not considered in determining their eligibility fo Medicaid.

    So, basically ANY domestic or off shore irrevocable trust will accomplish the goal and act as a medicaid trust. It is not a matter of ‘hiding’ assets, but rather legally protecting assets from Medicaid through the irrevocable trust. 

    The name of the game really is getting the planning done early enough before long term care is needed to avoid the 5 year look back period. 

  • Ashish AcharyaBusiness Member
    CPA, CFP®, PFS · FL · Member since 2017 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @Brian Bradley, 

    Thanks.

    Let me ask you this. Does revocable trust that is not self settled provides same level of creditors protection as irrevocable trust ? 

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  • Attorney · Wilsonville, OR · Member since 2017 · 504 posts · 411 votes
    7y
    @Ashish Acharya depends if their is a spendthrift provision in place or not.
  • Attorney · Wilsonville, OR · Member since 2017 · 504 posts · 411 votes
    7y
    @Ashish Acharya The asset protection benefit of irrevocable trusts comes mainly from the separation of the grantor from his or her assets. ... Assets in an irrevocable trust are shielded from creditor claims, estate taxes and a Medicaid spend-down. A revocable trust allows a grantor to retain a fair amount of control over trust assets. So even with a spendthrift clause you are not as protected from creditors as a revocable trust.
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