Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Creative Real Estate Financing
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 1 month ago,

User Stats

106
Posts
38
Votes

Subject To or to not Subject To?

Jordan Alexander
Posted

Hi everyone,

I follow Pace Morby and a couple of other creative finance masters on social media. When it comes to creative finance, I personally lean more towards seller finance as I like getting to work with owners and building relationships with them. I'm not opposed to subject to, but my fear is whoever I am taking over the existing mortgage from will not continue making the payments. How do you mitigate this risk? Is it just as simple as entering your account information in their mortgage payment portal and making sure the payment comes from your account? Thoughts?

Thank you!

User Stats

304
Posts
346
Votes
Shiela R.
  • Investor
  • Boulder, CO
346
Votes |
304
Posts
Shiela R.
  • Investor
  • Boulder, CO
Replied

Interesting that this isn't covered with the "masters". SMH.  I've always gotten a signed "authorization to release loan info" from the owner on record.  Then you can talk to the mortgage company or payment processor yourself. You are taking over the payments. 

It really depends on your market and the owner's needs if sub to is even possible.

User Stats

2,910
Posts
2,404
Votes
Nicole Heasley Beitenman
Pro Member
#5 Medium-Term Rentals Contributor
  • Investor
  • Youngstown, OH
2,404
Votes |
2,910
Posts
Nicole Heasley Beitenman
Pro Member
#5 Medium-Term Rentals Contributor
  • Investor
  • Youngstown, OH
Replied

I'd never enter into a sub-to agreement unless I was the one making the payments. What's common practice? I'd talk to some investors experienced in sub-to, and possibly an attorney. 

  • Nicole Heasley Beitenman
  • 1-800 Accountant  logo
    1-800 Accountant
    |
    Sponsored
    Unlock Year-End Real Estate Tax Savings: Buy your accounting services now and deduct them on your 2024 taxes. Flat rate, never hourly.

    User Stats

    106
    Posts
    38
    Votes
    Jordan Alexander
    Replied
    Quote from @Shiela R.:

    Interesting that this isn't covered with the "masters". SMH.  I've always gotten a signed "authorization to release loan info" from the owner on record.  Then you can talk to the mortgage company or payment processor yourself. You are taking over the payments. 

    It really depends on your market and the owner's needs if sub to is even possible.


     Thank you Shiela! I appreciate it!

    User Stats

    511
    Posts
    499
    Votes
    Jamie Banks#2 Medium-Term Rentals Contributor
    • Real Estate Consultant
    • Reston, VA
    499
    Votes |
    511
    Posts
    Jamie Banks#2 Medium-Term Rentals Contributor
    • Real Estate Consultant
    • Reston, VA
    Replied

    @Jordan Alexander I'm taking a creative financing course now and I'm learning that a lot of investors pay the mortgage that they acquired after the sub2 deal closed from a servicing account.

    User Stats

    106
    Posts
    38
    Votes
    Jordan Alexander
    Replied
    Quote from @Jamie Banks:

    @Jordan Alexander I'm taking a creative financing course now and I'm learning that a lot of investors pay the mortgage that they acquired after the sub2 deal closed from a servicing account.


     Hi Jamie! Thank you for letting me know. That makes sense!

    User Stats

    9,861
    Posts
    5,548
    Votes
    Eliott Elias#4 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat Contributor
    • Investor
    • Austin, TX
    5,548
    Votes |
    9,861
    Posts
    Eliott Elias#4 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat Contributor
    • Investor
    • Austin, TX
    Replied

    Use a third-party servicing company.

    User Stats

    42
    Posts
    14
    Votes
    Raj Konda
    • Investor
    • Thousand Oaks, CA
    14
    Votes |
    42
    Posts
    Raj Konda
    • Investor
    • Thousand Oaks, CA
    Replied

    Hi Jordan, Did you go thru with Subject To?  Curious as I m evaluating an opportunity but it is a new area for me, so checking

    Thanks

    raj

    User Stats

    79
    Posts
    31
    Votes
    Paul Cijunelis
    Property Manager
    • Property Manager
    • Downers Grove, IL
    31
    Votes |
    79
    Posts
    Paul Cijunelis
    Property Manager
    • Property Manager
    • Downers Grove, IL
    Replied
    You make the payments. I have subto deals and pay the mortgage. If you are worried about this there are companies that handle servicing these payments automatically on a scheduling system if you have a bunch of them.
    • Paul Cijunelis
    • 630-912-8742
    business profile image
    PMI Service Group
    5.0 stars
    16 Reviews