A conundrum: how to Refi my rental property

A conundrum: how to Refi my rental property

Brandon TurnerPro Member
Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes

Hi, I am working on refinancing a rental property. I bought the home with a Hard Money Lender and meant to flip it. Didn't happen. But I got some good tenants who pay the mortgage and then some. So I would like to refinance this property and hold on to it for a few years. I have a few options, and would love anyone's input on what they would do.

I owe $43,000 to a private lender, and roughly $60,000 to my father's Home Equity Line of Credit(we did this flip together, but only I am on title. He doesn't have a lien or anything). The house is worth around $130,000. My main goal is to get long term financing that will free up as much of my dad's H.E.L.O.C. as I can (hopefully all of it). (and this would be a "cash-out" refinance because my dad's HELOC is tied to HIS house, not the rental)

The problem: I don't have document-able income. I left my job as a banker, so no one will give me a mortgage. My father does have good income and good credit, but again, he is not on title.

So, as I see it, I have 2 options.
1.) I could sell the property to my father, and he would purchase it from me with a new loan. It would then be his. However, he would have to put down 20% for a down payment. Banks (it seems) won't allow just 20% equity, but actually need 20% physically paid. But he doesn't have the 20% (because its all tied up in the HELOC which is being used for the house, which will be free once the refi is done). Its just a weird situation I think.

2.) I could also add my father onto title and then just refinance it. However, adding him would trigger a "due on sale" clause from my private lender. Also, banks usually have a "Seasoning Period" - a length of time a person must be on title before refinancing - usually 6 months. I don't have 6 months. I have 3.

So, that is the situation. Any questions, comments, or names of institutions that would do something like this would be great. I'm sure there is a solution to this problem, but I just haven't figured it all out yet. Thanks!

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  • Real Estate Investor · Member since 2009 · 26 posts · 4 votes
    17y

    Hi Brandon. I don't know if you've already considered this or not.

    Have you advertised (on all social media networks and free classified sites ) or checked your own database, offering this lending opportunity to other private money investors?

    i.e just busy people that have money and are looking for a better return on their money than what their current stock portfolio provides.

    I've heard a lot of people are upset with the performance of their non-real estate investments and might be happy to get a 6-10% return with a longer term than your hard money guy is offering. (Maybe someone will give you a 5 year term and with interest only payments, just so they feel more secure about the investment)

    Would that enable you to pay off both debts, free up your dad's credit, keep the property in your name and allow you to get more monthly cashflow/ a emergency fund while you give the property time to appreciate in value?

    Get some people interested by noting:

    -They don't have to be a landlord to reap rewards from real estate. (You'll take care of all the details and property management)

    -It can be completely hands off for them

    -explain why RE is a much safer & more lucrative investment for them than other types

    Just a thought I hope this helps.

    Arron

  • Real Estate Consultant · Miami, FL · Member since 2009 · 31 posts · 3 votes
    17y

    Hi Brandon,

    I arrange hard money for residential & commercial investment properties. The leverage maximum is 65% of the "as is" value in your case. That would provide your father a good portion of his funds as a pay out/pay down, not sure if that helps any questions feel free to reach out email or call.

    Best of Luck,

    Dave

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