Walk me through a private lending scenario

Walk me through a private lending scenario

Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2014 · 130 posts · 77 votes

I've been reading up on private lending and I understand how it works for wholesaling and fix/flipping. (Find private lender, use funds to control, acquire and/or rehab property and then pay off lender with interest after fix and flip.)

My question is using private money for buy and hold. You find a private lender, create terms that are mutually beneficial and then pay a mortgage note for X number of years? I know each private lending arrangement is different, but wouldn't most private lenders be uncomfortable/unwilling agreeing to a 15+year, (low) fixed rate mortgage?

What is typically the exit strategy to getting the private lender paid back in full in a buy and hold situation? Hope for appreciation and do a cash-out refi with a commercial/retail bank within a few years?

I know arrangements with private lenders will vary tremendously, but what would you do if a private lender is willing to lend the full amount of money you require to do a buy and hold transaction, but doesn't want his/her money tied up for longer than 3 to 5 years?

Also, when getting private money to purchase a buy and hold rental, do you borrow extra (and roll that into the total loan amount) to initially fund the property's maintenance reserves?

Thanks in advance for any answers/explanation.

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Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2009 · 168 posts · 40 votes
12y

You will most likely only get a rate locked in for 3-5 years. This reduces interest rate risk to the lender. They will lock the rate for 3-5 and your amortization will be 15-20 usually. At the end of that 3-5 years, they might refinance with you at a rate that is currently acceptable or you might be on the hook to find someone else to finance it for you.

The last part of your question is really going to depend on how the private lender works. If they are going to require an appraisal and you put money down, it will be hard borrow extra for reserves or repairs. Some private lenders might loan you more on the ARV (after repair value) if you can prove it.

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  • Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2009 · 168 posts · 40 votes
    12y

    You will most likely only get a rate locked in for 3-5 years. This reduces interest rate risk to the lender. They will lock the rate for 3-5 and your amortization will be 15-20 usually. At the end of that 3-5 years, they might refinance with you at a rate that is currently acceptable or you might be on the hook to find someone else to finance it for you.

    The last part of your question is really going to depend on how the private lender works. If they are going to require an appraisal and you put money down, it will be hard borrow extra for reserves or repairs. Some private lenders might loan you more on the ARV (after repair value) if you can prove it.

  • Rental Property Investor · Kansas City MO · Member since 2013 · 147 posts · 9 votes
    12y

    I'll be curious to hear more input on this as well. I think the concept of allowing a refi after 3-5 years would make a lot of lenders more comfortable.

  • Investor · Grove, OK · Member since 2013 · 62 posts · 3 votes
    12y

    Can't you Refi in 1yr- who governs this timing?

  • Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Todd Lee:
    Can't you Refi in 1yr- who governs this timing?

    Yes,and it depends because you both have some ability to govern the timing IMO. Obviously only the borrower can truly govern the timing but the lender has some ways to incentivise refi-ing earlier or later.

    The lender can have a pre-payment penalty, you could still refi but it would be less financially viable in many cases so the borrower is more likely to wait.

    The lender can have a balloon payment or interest rate adjustment written for 3,5,7.... years. Now this is to incentivise the borrower to refi out of the property earlier rather than later.

    The borrower can purchase with the intent of refi-ing quickly to get out of a higher interest loan. I'm talking to my sister about doing this now. She has IRA, money I need a loan on a property that may not finance. I've verbally explained to her my intention is to refi her out of a 50% of purchase price loan in 6-9 months. There won't be a written balloon and she is ok holding the loan longer if needed, but I want to get cheaper money as soon as I can....and have her paid back so she can fund another purchase for me on a distressed house.

    So really the borrower and the refi-ing lender's title seasoning, if any, control the situation but the lender can make it more or less feasible to do so within a specific time frame.

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    Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    You can do really any lending scenario you and the other party mutually agree on. It can be 1 year, 18 months, etc. When you do a cash out refinance, it would be to pay off the private lender by getting either a conventional loan or something from a portfolio lender. Ideally the lender is getting some interest out of the loan.

    It also depends on the size of the loan. For a loan of $20,000 for example you may want just a 5 year fully amortized loan at 9% as your payments would be $415/month. Depending on the amount of rent, that may be justifiable.

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