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Jonathan Chan
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Thinking of becoming a private money lender? Vet your borrower properly!!

Jonathan Chan
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If you're interested in adding real estate lends as another tool in your toolbox, these are the steps I've learned you should take to vet your borrower before looking at any of their opportunities!

  • Background check
  • Credit check
  • Past performance. Look at purchase HUDS, statement of work if it was a renovation and the sale HUD to make sure they made money on the deal.
  • An organized and easy to navigate borrower's package.
  • Security documents to collateralize the loan against real, tangible property.

I also like to throw in some communication clauses with consequences for ghosting.

Cheers!

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Erik Estrada
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Can you elaborate what you mean by communication clauses?

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Quote from @Erik Estrada:

Can you elaborate what you mean by communication clauses?


Weekly updates AND a requirement for the borrower or someone from the borrower's team to respond within 24 hours of being contacted.

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Quote from @Jonathan Chan:
Quote from @Erik Estrada:

Can you elaborate what you mean by communication clauses?


Weekly updates AND a requirement for the borrower or someone from the borrower's team to respond within 24 hours of being contacted.


 Interesting, 

I have not seen this done. Has this strategy worked for you?

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@Jonathan Chan

I am all for communication - but how do you enforce that communications policy? You gonna put someone in default because they didn’t answer a phone? I

when underwriting we also want to know the exit strategy of the borrower to make sure they are not limiting themselves to a single exit

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Jonathan Chan

I am all for communication - but how do you enforce that communications policy? You gonna put someone in default because they didn’t answer a phone? I

when underwriting we also want to know the exit strategy of the borrower to make sure they are not limiting themselves to a single exit


 I honestly don't know how enforceable it is, but 24 hours to respond to any sort of communication is more than reasonable in my opinion. Yes, we also make sure there are multiple exits. I personally like lending on BRRRRs because it's more predictable. You can do everything right on a flip and just have the timing be bad or just have it sit for no good reason.

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Quote from @Jonathan Chan:

If you're interested in adding real estate lends as another tool in your toolbox, these are the steps I've learned you should take to vet your borrower before looking at any of their opportunities!

  • Background check
  • Credit check
  • Past performance. Look at purchase HUDS, statement of work if it was a renovation and the sale HUD to make sure they made money on the deal.
  • An organized and easy to navigate borrower's package.
  • Security documents to collateralize the loan against real, tangible property.
I loaned $60K to some “friends from church” for a flip they were doing about 8 years ago. I got a lien on the house they were flipping, all looked good on paper, then I found out they were using my $60K to improve their personal house! I got my money back plus 10% but I’ll never loan money to anyone again.

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Quote from @Kristi K.:
Quote from @Jonathan Chan:

If you're interested in adding real estate lends as another tool in your toolbox, these are the steps I've learned you should take to vet your borrower before looking at any of their opportunities!

  • Background check
  • Credit check
  • Past performance. Look at purchase HUDS, statement of work if it was a renovation and the sale HUD to make sure they made money on the deal.
  • An organized and easy to navigate borrower's package.
  • Security documents to collateralize the loan against real, tangible property.
I loaned $60K to some “friends from church” for a flip they were doing about 8 years ago. I got a lien on the house they were flipping, all looked good on paper, then I found out they were using my $60K to improve their personal house! I got my money back plus 10% but I’ll never loan money to anyone again.

 You got your money plus return back. Where did they get the funds to repay you?

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Wow. You were not only lucky to get your money back, @Kristi K., but also fortunate that your borrower didn’t contest your business-purpose loan as being for a consumer purpose. Verifying the use of the money and confirming in writing that it’s for a business purpose are integral parts of any private loan. This could have cost you your interest at a minimum and perhaps a fortune to defend. It’s doubtful you would have been able to foreclose if the loan had been contested and you lost.

According to all the lending attorneys I know, this is the most popular lawsuit in private lending. Some attorneys now specialize in these. It’s so serious that, beginning January 1st in California, any lender who knowingly originates a consumer-purpose loan misrepresented as a business-purpose loan can face criminal charges and jail time. It has been a civil issue only—until now.  Protect yourself.

Our loan documentation package includes several handwritten forms that the borrower must complete at various points during escrow to establish the intended use of the funds. Some lending attorneys now recommend interviewing your borrower in a recorded Zoom call, using scripted questions, to document their intentions.

Your list and communication clause comments, @Jonathan Chan, appear to reflect a do-it-yourself approach. Well-intended, no doubt, but you might consider running some of these ideas past a good lending attorney. My opinion and also writing what I know others are thinking.