Why don’t people invest in groups?

Why don’t people invest in groups?

San Francisco, CA · Member since 2021 · 2 posts · 0 votes

Hey everyone, I’m just getting started investing in real estate and I really want to understand why people aren’t investing in groups of 3 or more. I’m posing this question to investors of all types: short-term or long-term, residential or commercial, etc. There has to be a reason or reasons why more people don’t do this. I’ve gathered my thoughts below:

Clearly there are upsides to investing in a group:

  • Lower entry cost. Whether it’s an even split or some sort of equity agreement, the group members get access to an asset they otherwise may not have been able to afford.
  • Shared workload. Tasks like accounting, maintenance contracting, etc. can be divided amongst the group members so that they can put less time in or stick to their strengths. If one of the members doesn’t have a lot of experience it gives them the opportunity to learn from the others.
  • Less risk. The less you invest the less exposure you have if the property takes a turn for the worst. If you’re invested in, say, 3 properties for ⅓ of the price, you’re much more risk averse.
  • Scale. With a smart investment and proper use of leverage, investing with groups could give you the opportunity to scale earlier and faster than you would have on your own.

But, like with any group project, problems arise:

  • Finding partners. There aren’t any surefire ways to bring a good group of investors together. You’re also probably not going to invest with multiple groups. For example, 3 groups of 5 people: You would have to work with 12 individuals to acquire, manage, and exit (maybe) on just 3 properties.
  • Theft. Anything that involves moving money has the inherent risk of theft.
  • Dishonesty. Finding a group of people that has a compatible set of contributions is hard enough, what if they aren’t all that they say they are?
  • Legal work. Setting up a group investment is a small challenge legally but can be costly. A proper governance structure needs to assign responsibilities, cover every possible exit scenario, and more.

I imagine I haven’t covered anywhere near everything, which is why I’m here. If you have experience investing with a group, what was the best part? Worst? If you’ve considered it, but chose not to, why? What was the biggest reason? Thanks!

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  • Simon W.Business Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Lehigh Valley PA & New York City · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 660 votes
    4y

    I think it is more of a trust issue 

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  • San Francisco, CA · Member since 2021 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    4y

    @Simon W. It does seem like that's what it boils down to. I'd love to hear from some people who have working relationship like this though and to see how they did it.

  • Member since 2020 · 983 posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    I call it, "The Blind leading The Blind", or maybe one person in your group is a genius who has terrific real estate experiences, is knowledgeable about every facet of real estate, is a workaholic and the others are brain-dead 24/7 beer-drinking zombies. 

    How would you like to be in business with other people, purchase a light bulb for the property in your partnership and then have to go through hell because your partners are angry because they could have purchased the light bulb for $1 less than what you paid.

    You would think that 3 brains are better than one, but the problem I usually see is one person in the group usually controls the entire group with a loud mouth, strong convictions and regardless of what he tell the group in relation to being right or wrong. I think it is called 'testosterone'.

    Then, you have the normal expectations with partnerships. A partner need some quick cash and his wanting out of the partnership put other partners in dire positions where they have to scrap the entire deal, or get money from somewhere to buy out their partner.

    A partnership can be exactly the same and just as bad as any marriage or personal relationship can possibly be.

    Think about how difficult it is to get people to get vaccinated for COVID and listed to the anti-vaxxers' crazy reasoning. Try to imagine dealing with people who have a seriously insane inability to agree with you regardless of the subject matter and this insane person keeps your hands tied and paralyzes you.

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