Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Buying & Selling Real Estate
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 4 years ago, 05/20/2020

User Stats

2,736
Posts
1,922
Votes
Alecia Loveless
Pro Member
1,922
Votes |
2,736
Posts

Help Binding Insurance Policy

Alecia Loveless
Pro Member
Posted

I am 6 days from closing on a new SFR and am having trouble getting insurance on it. This property requires renovations, and due to the location I am estimating I will need 60 days to finish the project. Contractors are in high demand and my personal contractor is finishing up a prior project for me, but this deal was too good to pass up.

So far I have been told by three insurance companies they do not handle rentals. I have had one company say they will give me 30 days to do renovations and get the new roof completed as well as get a new tenant in, which is not likely to be viable, but I am keeping in my back pocket as a last resort.

The newest company I heard from today said they would give me a vacant building policy for $1825 for 12 months that I can cancel at any time once the renovation is complete and shop for a new policy that is for a rental at a better price, the agent apologized for the high price, he understood that an investor would not be happy with that quote. However, the agent was trying to give me the flexibility to finish the project without a stringent time frame and still have proper coverage.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks!
Alecia

  • Alecia Loveless
  • User Stats

    5,409
    Posts
    2,571
    Votes
    David M.
    • Morris County, NJ
    2,571
    Votes |
    5,409
    Posts
    David M.
    • Morris County, NJ
    Replied

    @Alecia Loveless

    Are you talking with the regular big name chains of insurance providers?  What about some insurance brokers in your state / market?  If you are still renovating it, you should be able to get a builder's risk policy.  A vacant building policy shouldn't apply if you are still renovating it.

    User Stats

    2,736
    Posts
    1,922
    Votes
    Alecia Loveless
    Pro Member
    1,922
    Votes |
    2,736
    Posts
    Alecia Loveless
    Pro Member
    Replied

    Thanks David. Hadn’t heard of this type of policy yet as I am new. 
    Alecia

  • Alecia Loveless
  • BiggerPockets logo
    Join Our Private Community for Passive Investors
    |
    BiggerPockets
    Get first-hand insights and real sponsor reviews from other investors

    User Stats

    384
    Posts
    122
    Votes
    Ben Guttman
    • Specialist
    • Baltimore, MD
    122
    Votes |
    384
    Posts
    Ben Guttman
    • Specialist
    • Baltimore, MD
    Replied

    @Alecia Loveless where are you located. Definitely some great regional carriers with flexibility on this. Also, builders risk is a good option

    User Stats

    41
    Posts
    17
    Votes
    Jeremy Goodrich
    • Insurance Agent
    • Bloomington, IN
    17
    Votes |
    41
    Posts
    Jeremy Goodrich
    • Insurance Agent
    • Bloomington, IN
    Replied

    You need to connect with an independent insurance agent that specializes in investment properties.  The right insurance for this scenario is a vacant policy with renovations coverage added.  A good agent should be able to get you a quote for this no problem.

     The term "builders risk" is misused a lot. Builders Risk coverage includes:

    1. Property coverage for the building materials 

    2. Liability coverage for the fact the contractors will be on site


    If a property is a new build, the entire policy can be builders risk.  In a renovation, the builders risk is just one small part of the entire policy.   

    DM me if you'd like a suggestion for a good independent insurance agent that serves New Hampshire.  You can just google "real estate investors insurance New Hampshire" as well.  

    User Stats

    23,418
    Posts
    13,507
    Votes
    Wayne Brooks#1 Foreclosures Contributor
    • Real Estate Professional
    • West Palm Beach, FL
    13,507
    Votes |
    23,418
    Posts
    Wayne Brooks#1 Foreclosures Contributor
    • Real Estate Professional
    • West Palm Beach, FL
    Replied

    We use a renovation Builders Risk policy. 

    User Stats

    2,736
    Posts
    1,922
    Votes
    Alecia Loveless
    Pro Member
    1,922
    Votes |
    2,736
    Posts
    Alecia Loveless
    Pro Member
    Replied

    Thank you for letting me know this!  I will definitely look for this type of policy in the future. I was able to find a small company to work with and a policy that made sense that was way below the original $1825 I had mentioned. I believe the insurance agents that deal with investors just smelled blood with me as I did not know better. Glad I found one that was at least a bit better to deal with!

  • Alecia Loveless
  • User Stats

    2,175
    Posts
    1,198
    Votes
    John Mocker#1 Insurance Contributor
    • Insurance Agent
    • Norwalk, CT
    1,198
    Votes |
    2,175
    Posts
    John Mocker#1 Insurance Contributor
    • Insurance Agent
    • Norwalk, CT
    Replied

    Alecia
    Glad you found a company that worked for you. I would suggest you get in writing from the company and agent that they are aware of the renovations.

    Also, you need to find out if there is a Vacancy clause and when it kicks in. Usually after 60 days the vacancy clause can reduce coverage in several areas (vandalism, theft, water damage, ...) that are important during the renovation and beyond.