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Selling half a house to a significant other

Eric C.
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Posted Apr 14 2018, 04:04

Here is the situation.  My 4 yr girlfriend and I are moving back to an area where I own a house outright.  It is currently rented, and my intent if I kept it as a rental was to cash out the equity as it is worth about 150k.  We used to live there together several years ago.  She wants us to either buy a place together, or let her buy half the rental house and we live in it.  I thought about the idea of quit claiming her on deed and then letting her get a cash out refi as an owner occupant for her half which she would just give me.  Is that a feasible way to do the transaction?

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Replied Apr 15 2018, 13:00

@Eric C.  what was the name of that rock climber who free climbed El Capitan ??

I think they showed it on 60 minutes and I think he did it without any ropes.. is that right

if so it was the most amazing thing I have ever seen !!!

sorry to change subjects but based on your Avitar thought you might recall that..

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Eric C.
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Replied Apr 15 2018, 13:05
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Eric C.  what was the name of that rock climber who free climbed El Capitan ??

I think they showed it on 60 minutes and I think he did it without any ropes.. is that right

if so it was the most amazing thing I have ever seen !!!

sorry to change subjects but based on your Avitar thought you might recall that..

 Alex Honnold - is the famous free soloist who does a ton of stuff in Yosemite, but Tommy Caldwell and Kevin Jorgenson were the two climbers to first "Free" the Dawn Wall on El Cap.  To Free Solo is to climb without rope protection, and to free climb is to climb without weighting a rope and to not use gear for progress, but you can have it there just in case.  

Climbing is my passion, not real estate.  I climb outside about 100 days per year.  

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Replied Apr 15 2018, 13:12
Originally posted by @Eric C.:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Eric C.  what was the name of that rock climber who free climbed El Capitan ??

I think they showed it on 60 minutes and I think he did it without any ropes.. is that right

if so it was the most amazing thing I have ever seen !!!

sorry to change subjects but based on your Avitar thought you might recall that..

 Alex Honnold - is the famous free soloist who does a ton of stuff in Yosemite, but Tommy Caldwell and Kevin Jorgenson were the two climbers to first "Free" the Dawn Wall on El Cap.  To Free Solo is to climb without rope protection, and to free climb is to climb without weighting a rope and to not use gear for progress, but you can have it there just in case.  

Climbing is my passion, not real estate.  I climb outside about 100 days per year.  

Being a SF Bay Area kid I have been in Yosemite valley many times.. when I saw that guy climb up El Cap it was the most awesome thing I think I have ever seen..

Real estate has been good to me all these years but yes there is much more to life than worrying about cash flow and rentals tenants and stuff.. keep your perspective.

We live in the Jet age for 750 bucks you can be around the world in 15 to 16 hours.. all these people that get so focused on being retired or living on their rentals AS soon as they can to me they miss many of the pleasures of a rounded life.. hopefully if they do achieve their dreams they will stop and smell the roses.

I had one guy on BP write me a private message one time and said I post to much and I just not have a life.

my reply well maybe so from his perspective but in the last year I have been to  Isreal  Thailand Hawaii 2 times London  British Columbia to fly fish and about 12 other locations in the US ( those are primarily business) so don't let the peanut Gallery here on BP bug you !!! 

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Eric C.
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Replied Apr 15 2018, 13:18
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Eric C.:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Eric C.  what was the name of that rock climber who free climbed El Capitan ??

I think they showed it on 60 minutes and I think he did it without any ropes.. is that right

if so it was the most amazing thing I have ever seen !!!

sorry to change subjects but based on your Avitar thought you might recall that..

 Alex Honnold - is the famous free soloist who does a ton of stuff in Yosemite, but Tommy Caldwell and Kevin Jorgenson were the two climbers to first "Free" the Dawn Wall on El Cap.  To Free Solo is to climb without rope protection, and to free climb is to climb without weighting a rope and to not use gear for progress, but you can have it there just in case.  

Climbing is my passion, not real estate.  I climb outside about 100 days per year.  

Being a SF Bay Area kid I have been in Yosemite valley many times.. when I saw that guy climb up El Cap it was the most awesome thing I think I have ever seen..

Real estate has been good to me all these years but yes there is much more to life than worrying about cash flow and rentals tenants and stuff.. keep your perspective.

We live in the Jet age for 750 bucks you can be around the world in 15 to 16 hours.. all these people that get so focused on being retired or living on their rentals AS soon as they can to me they miss many of the pleasures of a rounded life.. hopefully if they do achieve their dreams they will stop and smell the roses.

I had one guy on BP write me a private message one time and said I post to much and I just not have a life.

my reply well maybe so from his perspective but in the last year I have been to  Isreal  Thailand Hawaii 2 times London  British Columbia to fly fish and about 12 other locations in the US ( those are primarily business) so don't let the peanut Gallery here on BP bug you !!! 

 Well Said!!!  In my death bed, I will not say "I wish I would have traveled less".   Always wanted to fly fish, but haven't tried it yet.  There is great climbing up your direction at Smith Rocks outside of Bend, I have been there many times.    

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Replied Apr 15 2018, 13:37
Originally posted by @Eric C.:
Originally posted by @Charlie MacPherson:

@Eric C. I suppose you could reach a contractual deal where you're both on the deed, but why would you do that if you're not married to her?

If for whatever reason your relationship sours, you could have a nightmare on your hands.

 A marriage is certainly no way to guarantee that a relationship won't sour.  She doesn't want to pay rent, and I don't blame her there.  Our options are we buy a different place together, or I can sell her half of my current place.  I would then reinvest the proceeds to get a different rental property.

My partner and I own four houses together. We've been together 20 years. Not married. 

TIC

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Gary Barella
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Replied Apr 15 2018, 14:28

Is your girlfriend a mobster? In Jersey, the only time we see nonsense like that is when someone’s getting squeezed.

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Replied Apr 15 2018, 15:10

Wait until you are married. Much less risk and much easier process.

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Tanya F.
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Replied Apr 15 2018, 20:28

@Eric C. it wouldn't let me mention you in the updates I just added above- so reposting:

We bought our first property together when we'd been together for 3 years, and at that point we'd only been living together for one year.

AND both of our names are on all the mortgage loans, and three out of the four titles. The house where we both live together has just me on the title deed but both of us on the loan and the HELOC. No additional paperwork. We have much of our finances intertwined. We have our separate accounts, too. Sounds like you guys are like us.

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Replied Apr 16 2018, 02:21

I think you got a lot of “personal” type responses because you included person information. And your question has a simple answer, provided by Jay but easily googled, so it was assumed you were not part of a power team with re assets, cash and a stated investment philosophy. Do whatever you want. Why even ask for help?

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Ola Dantis
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Replied Apr 16 2018, 05:59

I can't stop laughing so hard when I read this stuff. I mean I am dying here! 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Replied Apr 16 2018, 11:18

@Eric C.  Sorry - I didn't intend to start a firestorm.  

I just wanted to point out that there are significant risks to the idea that you proposed.  If you understand the risks and are willing to accept them, good on ya.

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Replied Apr 16 2018, 12:45

Wow, what a crazy thread. Sounds like a straight up TIC to me (get the language straightened out with a lawyer so you know exactly what the risks are and think hard about how you can minimize them, housemate to cover if she bails and you need the income, whatever). We do them all the time around here, married or not. Everyone was so quick to judge you based on the entirely irrelevant marriage issue I don't know if I want to ask my question. I'm looking for someone to become an equity partner buying a share in my house. I have a beautiful 1 bedroom apt ADU in the basement in a great location but I don't know if I'm just going to get dumped on.

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Replied Apr 16 2018, 18:06

@Alison Horton, SSSSSShhh!!! The animals were almost asleep!  

By the way, your idea is intriguing.  I've seen contemplation of this kind of "ticing out" a SF residence a couple of times in the last few weeks.  It's hard to believe that prices in the Bay have risen to that point.  But they have.  And it does make ever so much sense to buy a % interest in a house than to rent if that's your druthers.  The devil's going to be in the structure of the deal of course.

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Replied Apr 16 2018, 21:11

Still have their contact info?

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Replied Apr 16 2018, 22:53
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Eric C.   geez I answered this question .... what I laid out is absolutely the ONLY route to legally do this.. next question.. ???

Yes but the marriage discussion is so much more fun to read!