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Terri Shields
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FIRST DEAL!! any advise?

Terri Shields
  • Canton, NC
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My daughter and I (new investors in Indianapolis) are under contract for our first house! We have experienced some twists that have caused us to consider flipping the property instead of  holding it to rent. Can anyone offer advice? Situation: Contracted for $95K, 1150 sq ft, 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, built-ins, bay window, 2 car garage, front covered porch, very cute. Comps show average value $139K. Area house values range from $90-$150K in that area according to realtor. On the walkthrough, the home looked great other than some rotting siding, a couple broken windows, stained carpet and old water stains on kitchen ceiling. The inspection brought to light many more expenses than we had anticipated: chimney collecting water and needs replaced, roof needs replaced, even decking is wet and needs replaced, insulation is wet and needs replaced, and drywall will need replaced. Evidence of termites, completely blocked ductwork, broken windows, wood rot, landscape grade running toward the house (on slab) and many miscellaneous items. Have not had estimates on repairs yet. We have enough cash funds for 20% down and $10Kor $15K towards repairs...not enough to cover all items.  Instead of renting the house, we are considering borrowing money to repair and flip. Seller has outstanding $78K mortgage and is willing to come down in price instead of making repairs himself. Seller agent is talking to bank to see if they will take less (like a short sale except not going through the whole foreclosure process). Our next step is to get estimates on repair costs and then run the numbers to see if it all works out. Any advise as we proceed?

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Originally posted by @Terri Shields:

My daughter and I (new investors in Indianapolis) are under contract for our first house! We have experienced some twists that have caused us to consider flipping the property instead of  holding it to rent. Can anyone offer advice? Situation: Contracted for $95K, 1150 sq ft, 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, built-ins, bay window, 2 car garage, front covered porch, very cute. Comps show average value $139K. Area house values range from $90-$150K in that area according to realtor. On the walkthrough, the home looked great other than some rotting siding, a couple broken windows, stained carpet and old water stains on kitchen ceiling. The inspection brought to light many more expenses than we had anticipated: chimney collecting water and needs replaced, roof needs replaced, even decking is wet and needs replaced, insulation is wet and needs replaced, and drywall will need replaced. Evidence of termites, completely blocked ductwork, broken windows, wood rot, landscape grade running toward the house (on slab) and many miscellaneous items. Have not had estimates on repairs yet. We have enough cash funds for 20% down and $10Kor $15K towards repairs...not enough to cover all items.  Instead of renting the house, we are considering borrowing money to repair and flip. Seller has outstanding $78K mortgage and is willing to come down in price instead of making repairs himself. Seller agent is talking to bank to see if they will take less (like a short sale except not going through the whole foreclosure process). Our next step is to get estimates on repair costs and then run the numbers to see if it all works out. Any advise as we proceed?

 Sure, take over the loan using Subject To, give the owner some moving money (her equity). Get at least two estimates on the repairs. Hire college students to do the demo and I'll bet some of them can do most of the repairs. Replace the roof first since you don't want it raining on your parade. Some roofers will charge $10,000 and some will charge $2,000 over cost of materials. Have Home Depot deliver the materials so you know the money isn't spent on Bud Light. Replacing a chimney requires someone who actually does chimney work but the other items generally are labor and local college students would be happy to have the work. You need to be "on site" or it will go south quickly. You can't do this from your computer. You will see huge differences in 7 to 10 days if you do this the right way.

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