Why are there Decoys at the auction?

Why are there Decoys at the auction?

Investor · Tampa, FL · Member since 2010 · 377 posts · 56 votes

Hi Everyone,

I realized that some veterans at the auction will have decoys bid for them.

For example, John is the veteran investor. Bill is the noobie. John tells Bill to bid on that property for him up to X under Bill's auction ID. Once Bill wins the bid, John comes up to pay for it.

Why do they do this? I'm thinking it could be because John, the Veteran, doesn't want other noobies to piggy back him because they know the properties he chooses is the good stuff?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts! :D

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  • Landlord · Seattle, WA · Member since 2010 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    16y

    I suspect your right. If you go to a number of these I suspect you would find the same players there quite frequently. Over time they may win less because of the herd mentality.

  • Real Estate Investor · the villages, FL · Member since 2008 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    16y

    In Texas- Auctions are held once a month. All the trustees are there barking out their properties at the same time. A literal 3 ring circus. I had 2 additional bidders with my targeted properties and amounts so all rings of the circus could be handled. Then, if the bid is won, trustee asks the name for title and my name is given. Then, I go in the little county office and hand them cashiers checks.
    In my FL county, completely different. Itis online and no one knows who is bidding till bid is accepted. Pretty cool. My PA sits in his office and bids.

    I don't thin I'd call them decoys in my experiences. Really fun and gets the adrenaline flowing. Rich

  • Investor · Tampa, FL · Member since 2010 · 377 posts · 56 votes
    16y

    Rich - Thanks for your reply. I see your point, but the auction here in Orlando is not a circus - 1 trustee, 1 property at a time.

    I hope our county go online like Lake County did. That would make things so much smoother. Sitting in an office and making bids sounds like a dream!

  • Real Estate Investor · Audubon, PA · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 8k+ votes
    16y
    Originally posted by Tony Nguyen:
    ... Sitting in an office and making bids sounds like a dream!


    But then you lose something too. There is some amusement by observing other people cringing as they bid upward (likely due to nearing their bid limits, and feeling pain as they have to get out of the comfort zone).

    You'd miss those spectators who come to watch their house or their neighbor's house get sold (and in the summer they even bring their kids sometimes too, guess no babysitter at home).

    You'd miss knowing who you're bidding against - and if you know somebody's bidding style and methods, you can sometimes use that to your advantage for your own bidding.

    You'd miss knowing how competitive the bidding got (or didn't get) for properties (where you may have only had a passing interest).

    Just a few things you miss when you lose on the interpersonal interactions that can only happen in person!
  • Investor · Tampa, FL · Member since 2010 · 377 posts · 56 votes
    16y

    Steve - very true. The psychological stages a bidder go through are so transparent sometimes and is truly amusing to watch!

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