Investor · Kearny, NJ · Member since 2016 · 214 posts · 29 votes
I'm taking my real estate course to get my license. And we we're spoke about promissory note. My professor summed up what it meant, and I didn't get the chance to have him clarify what it means exactly. Maybe a example would of been great.
Also I've heard of people purchasing promissory notes. How is this done? And what purpose does it serve? Does it compare to a mortgage? How does it differ?
Thank you in advance for your help. As I am in to the real estate industry and I'm still learning terminology. Thank you again, it's greatly appreciated!!
Real Estate Broker · Tampa Bay/St Petersburg, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
10y
Actually, promissory notes can be secured or unsecured.
In terms of real estate (at least in the U.S. and particularly in lien theory States), the Promissory Note outlines the payment terms to the lender, while the mortgage pledges the home as collateral.
The two go hand in hand; but the promissory note is essentially the document where the borrower promises to pay X number of payments for X number of years at X percent interest. More details here.
Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
10y
A promissory note is simply a loan made on the borrowers word (promise) that s/he will repay according to the terms of the loan. There is no collateral pledged to secure the loan.
viz. A personal loan at your bank is a promissory note - you promise to repay. If you default, there are no assets pledged which the lender can readily sell or seize to recover their principal (as there is with a mortgage).
Investor · Kearny, NJ · Member since 2016 · 214 posts · 29 votes
10y
Roy N. Okay, I feel like I understand it better then how my professor did. Now if the mortgagor/s defaults how does a investor/ buyer purchase a promissory note? If possible..
Real Estate Broker · Tampa Bay/St Petersburg, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
10y
Actually, promissory notes can be secured or unsecured.
In terms of real estate (at least in the U.S. and particularly in lien theory States), the Promissory Note outlines the payment terms to the lender, while the mortgage pledges the home as collateral.
The two go hand in hand; but the promissory note is essentially the document where the borrower promises to pay X number of payments for X number of years at X percent interest. More details here.
Real Estate Broker · Tampa Bay/St Petersburg, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
10y
In the U.S., "mortgage notes" (consisting of both the mortgage and the promissory note, presumably) are sold to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and other government-backed entities (in order to free up the banks' capital to turn around and make more loans, among other reasons), and these entities in turn package the notes in bulk and sell them as mortgage-backed securities on the secondary market. More on this here.
Some investors also buy and sell private mortgage notes. For example, if I owner-financed your house and you agreed to pay me $1000/mo for the next 20 years (total future value to me $240k, ignoring interest and the time-value of money), I might to sell the "note" I hold to another investor for $150k. The purchaser would essentially be paying $150k today in exchange for $1000/mo for the next 20 years, and their investment would be secured by your house.
Investor · Kearny, NJ · Member since 2016 · 214 posts · 29 votes
10y
Jeff Copeland okay so a note is a promise to pay what is owed. And a mortgage is if I don't pay come take my real estate?
And yes I believe NJ is lien theory..
Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
10y
Technically @Jeff Copeland is correct - there is always a promise. Given your question was in the context of studying for your real estate licence, that would be the appropriate response.
Colloquially, secured loans are seldom referred to as promissory notes (at least here) - the pledge of security being given more weight than the promise.
In simple terms, the note is evidence of a loan. If you don't pay the holder of the note starts a legal proceeding against the Maker which will end with either a foreclosure (secured by a property) or a legal judgment (unsecured).
Real Estate Broker · Tampa Bay/St Petersburg, FL · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
10y
@Roy N. - I didn't mean to sound argumentative...hope it didn't read that way.
We are both correct. However, as you noted above, in this context (studying for his real estate license), Carlos needs to know what the document itself is and what it means in the context of a closing real estate transaction.
Every buyer at every closing of a financed real estate transaction in the U.S. will likely sign promissory note outlining their payment terms to their lender.
@Carlos Rodrigues - Here's an example of one from a hard money loan:
Investor · Kearny, NJ · Member since 2016 · 214 posts · 29 votes
10y
Jeff Copeland Rich Baer Roy N. Thank you guys. I understand that a note is signed along with the mortgage. I understand that part for when it comes to buying/ selling real estate.
Now the other part of that as far as buying a note as a investment seems to be to very sophisticated. I don't fully understand it but it's okay, maybe I'm a little to fresh in the real estate industry to wrap my head around this one. I listened to podcast #28 just now where they talk about promissory notes and it's definitely complicated, we'll for me it seems that way..