The $30k pig, another view

The $30k pig, another view

Contractor · Port Richey, FL · Member since 2015 · 11 posts · 2 votes

I've seen a few different opinions on the topic and thought I would add my own.  Hopefully even get some advice and opinions on my thought and see how it goes.

So many people think they're a horrible idea just due to the money you need to sink in IF you want to keep them as long term rentals but I've always viewed them as short term term rentals/ long term teardowns.  I'm not sure the fees etc around the country but down here they charge impact fees based on what you're building, for new construction as well as all the standard fees/costs (water, sewer, electric, etc).  I've always kind of viewed getting a property like these as a tear down rental, set a budget to make them "livable", there are always decent people/tenants that just need a cheap roof basically so you can get some cash flow and rent towards the property.  After a year or two, basically tear down and build new.  As a rental you won't make a fortune but will break even or make a little, when ready to build you save at least $10k depending on the area for impacts and utilities.

Am I missing something big in my view long term?  Short term I've worked with a few investors and done a few myself that seem to work well this way

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Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
10y

The first thing that jumps into my head is your neighborhood. If you are buying a $30,000 property, that means the neighborhood isn't going to be worth much more per house, maybe $60,000 at best? Building new construction in that neighborhood is probably not worth the cost? I would expect that your new house wouldn't even appraise for cost at that point because the neighborhood would hold it down.

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  • Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    The first thing that jumps into my head is your neighborhood. If you are buying a $30,000 property, that means the neighborhood isn't going to be worth much more per house, maybe $60,000 at best? Building new construction in that neighborhood is probably not worth the cost? I would expect that your new house wouldn't even appraise for cost at that point because the neighborhood would hold it down.

  • Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y

    @Elliot S., 

    I'm with you, in a way. I don't think of the 10K houses that I bought as long-term investments. I don't want to be a landlord for another 10 years. 

    I bought them in the cheapest neighborhood, close to a major development, that is going to pull everything up much further in the next few years. I tried to buy connected properties and have 2 assemblages going. 

    Once the development is announced, the values on those go up more than the sum of its parts and they will be tear downs, I assume, by a contractor. 

    The rents so far have already paid off my initial investment and the houses I bought for 10K in 09/10 I could sell now for 40-50K, before the major development.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    10y

    @Elliot S.  path of progress can be a great play... One must be very intuned though to long range planning and comp plans of the area... if there is no long range plan or comp plan to change the area a 30k home in most markets won't do anything for you on the up side

  • Contractor · Port Richey, FL · Member since 2015 · 11 posts · 2 votes
    10y

       I'm viewing it more from a contractor/investor point instead of just investor.  Most of them I can get rent ready insanely cheap by just putting a crew of my hourly guys in them for 2-3 days and have them rent ready to match the neighborhoods, decent but dated (if that makes sense).  Comps are in the 40-50k range for dated but a little nicer, original 60s and 70s baths and kitchens really needing updating, and mid 70k range for nicely updated turn key.  Neighborhood is on the upturns and new homes are being built slowly around there.

        Again I'm not looking to keep the house, but basically have it rented for a year or two (which will pretty much pay them in full) then either nicely rehab or tear down and rebuild.

        Should probably add that I just used the $30k number because it's the one I keep seeing tossed around, we're picking these up for well under that (last one a partner grabbed was $18k, $2k in repairs and rented within the week for $900 a month)

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