Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Buying & Selling Real Estate
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

User Stats

13
Posts
2
Votes
Sandrene Smart
2
Votes |
13
Posts

User Stats

59
Posts
9
Votes
Austin Beveridge
  • Specialist
  • San Francisco
9
Votes |
59
Posts
Austin Beveridge
  • Specialist
  • San Francisco
Replied

I have some connections that provide funding for EMD and double closes, lmk if you'd like an intro!

User Stats

13
Posts
2
Votes
Sandrene Smart
2
Votes |
13
Posts
Sandrene Smart
Replied

What is your contact?

What is the interest rate?

What is your turnaround?

BiggerPockets logo
BiggerPockets
|
Sponsored
Find an investor-friendly agent in your market TODAY Get matched with our network of trusted, local, investor friendly agents in under 2 minutes

User Stats

59
Posts
9
Votes
Austin Beveridge
  • Specialist
  • San Francisco
9
Votes |
59
Posts
Austin Beveridge
  • Specialist
  • San Francisco
Replied

They're private investors, do on average $10-25M per month in funding. There is no interest rate, its a flat fee based on the amount borrowed. EMD 2-3 days, Double Close - 24hrs

User Stats

13
Posts
2
Votes
Sandrene Smart
2
Votes |
13
Posts
Sandrene Smart
Replied

Hi Austin 

I just you and left a voicemail. I would like to speak with you regarding EMD Lenders.
thanks Sandrene

User Stats

29
Posts
5
Votes
Michael Ciambra
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Long Island, NY
5
Votes |
29
Posts
Michael Ciambra
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Long Island, NY
Replied

@Sandrene Smart Hey I also can lend on EMD, double closes ect. Would love to connect with you

User Stats

1,576
Posts
793
Votes
Mohammed Rahman
Agent
  • Real Estate Broker
  • New York, NY
793
Votes |
1,576
Posts
Mohammed Rahman
Agent
  • Real Estate Broker
  • New York, NY
Replied

Hey @Sandrene Smart - there are a few companies out there that lend on EMD. Most of them won't issue the loan if its a small amount though so be mindful of that.

A quick google search should yield you some results. 

User Stats

16,730
Posts
14,257
Votes
Chris Seveney
Pro Member
#2 All Forums Contributor
  • Investor
  • Virginia
14,257
Votes |
16,730
Posts
Chris Seveney
Pro Member
#2 All Forums Contributor
  • Investor
  • Virginia
Replied

@Sandrene Smart

Honestly not trying to be mean but if you do not have $ for the EMD you should not be buying real estate as it's a very cash intensive industry and you need $ for real estate

  • Chris Seveney
  • User Stats

    13
    Posts
    2
    Votes
    Sandrene Smart
    2
    Votes |
    13
    Posts
    Sandrene Smart
    Replied

    Chris

    I am a real estate investor. I am several individuals I know have been flipping, wholesaling, etc. 

    The reason you have EMD is because from time to time as you do many deals, you use EMD….

    The reason there is such a thing as EMD is because, many others use it.


    thanks for your input 

    User Stats

    98
    Posts
    52
    Votes
    Thomas Santella
    • Real Estate Agent
    • NJ & NY
    52
    Votes |
    98
    Posts
    Thomas Santella
    • Real Estate Agent
    • NJ & NY
    Replied
    Quote from @Chris Seveney:

    @Sandrene Smart

    Honestly not trying to be mean but if you do not have $ for the EMD you should not be buying real estate as it's a very cash intensive industry and you need $ for real estate

    I disagree, especially if it is an investment. Most investors I know including myself don't use their own money for deals unless they absolutely have to. If it is your primary residence, you (and your partner if you have one ) are the only one servicing the debt. In that case, you better be liquid, making income and even have a few months of reserves

    User Stats

    16,730
    Posts
    14,257
    Votes
    Chris Seveney
    Pro Member
    #2 All Forums Contributor
    • Investor
    • Virginia
    14,257
    Votes |
    16,730
    Posts
    Chris Seveney
    Pro Member
    #2 All Forums Contributor
    • Investor
    • Virginia
    Replied
    Quote from @Thomas Santella:
    Quote from @Chris Seveney:

    @Sandrene Smart

    Honestly not trying to be mean but if you do not have $ for the EMD you should not be buying real estate as it's a very cash intensive industry and you need $ for real estate

    I disagree, especially if it is an investment. Most investors I know including myself don't use their own money for deals unless they absolutely have to. If it is your primary residence, you (and your partner if you have one ) are the only one servicing the debt. In that case, you better be liquid, making income and even have a few months of reserves

     how many deals have you done and how long have you been doing them? I see you just graduated college and started your business. 

  • Chris Seveney
  • User Stats

    98
    Posts
    52
    Votes
    Thomas Santella
    • Real Estate Agent
    • NJ & NY
    52
    Votes |
    98
    Posts
    Thomas Santella
    • Real Estate Agent
    • NJ & NY
    Replied

    @Chris Seveney Realtor for under a year yes, but about to close my third rental property with none of my own money. I have two 4 units, and this will be an out of state 6 I am converting to an 8 unit. Many investors doing much more than me in my network, and throughout the BP community, do much larger deals and do them without their own money. Does it help? Absolutely. Is it right for you to tell someone not to invest in real estate because they don't have a lot of money? I don't think so. 

    User Stats

    13
    Posts
    2
    Votes
    Sandrene Smart
    2
    Votes |
    13
    Posts
    Sandrene Smart
    Replied

    Chris

    I am new to Bigger Pockets and have enjoyed it except for you and this negativity. Note, this will be the last communication with you. Clearly, you are wrong on all your information. Actually, My background is healthcare for over 27 years with two Masters. I have done 7 total wholesales and a few flips… I find you to be a negative individual… very sad for you!

    These forums are not for personal attacks mentioning someone education as you feel its the only qualification to be an investor…. Wong  Again!!!

    Sir, I asked a question as many do on these platforms… if you don’t have anything positive to say…. Just don’t say it.. good bye and good luck with your endeavors. Be blessed!

    BiggerPockets logo
    PassivePockets is here!
    |
    BiggerPockets
    Find sponsors, evaluate deals, and learn how to invest with confidence.

    User Stats

    16,730
    Posts
    14,257
    Votes
    Chris Seveney
    Pro Member
    #2 All Forums Contributor
    • Investor
    • Virginia
    14,257
    Votes |
    16,730
    Posts
    Chris Seveney
    Pro Member
    #2 All Forums Contributor
    • Investor
    • Virginia
    Replied
    Quote from @Thomas Santella:

    @Chris Seveney Realtor for under a year yes, but about to close my third rental property with none of my own money. I have two 4 units, and this will be an out of state 6 I am converting to an 8 unit. Many investors doing much more than me in my network, and throughout the BP community, do much larger deals and do them without their own money. Does it help? Absolutely. Is it right for you to tell someone not to invest in real estate because they don't have a lot of money? I don't think so. 

     It 100% absolutely is ok to tell someone to invest in real estate with no money. What is wrong with this website is the majority of people on this site have no idea how to evaluate risk.

    When you have 25 year old hot shots trying to brag about how easy real estate is only to see them go crying to mommy in five years when they are completely underwater and are like "oh me" - ask me how I know. I saw it in 2001, saw it in 2008. 

    Will I benefit, yep - absolutely not because I am sitting on piles of money ready to buy these properties at half price. 

    But I also will educate people on having half a brain and understanding that what has occurred the past several years is not how real estate really is and recency bias kicks in.

    Share with me some statistical data that shows investing in real estate with no money is not as risky? I can share with you 50 years of data including FHA data that shows the less money you have the more likely you will default....

  • Chris Seveney
  • User Stats

    98
    Posts
    52
    Votes
    Thomas Santella
    • Real Estate Agent
    • NJ & NY
    52
    Votes |
    98
    Posts
    Thomas Santella
    • Real Estate Agent
    • NJ & NY
    Replied

    When did I ever brag? I gave my opinion which I am allowed to do. I only spoke of my investments after you asked. I don't disagree with you, it absolutely is better to have cash investing in real estate and less risky. However, most people don't when they get started and neither did I. It is not a requirement to invest in real estate, many people are successful starting without it and that was my point. Not once did I say it is less risky, which it is. No need to get so but hurt that someone disagreed with you. Congrats on your piles of money. And I am 23, not 25.. 

    User Stats

    4,681
    Posts
    3,568
    Votes
    Nicholas L.
    Pro Member
    #1 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat Contributor
    • Flipper/Rehabber
    • Pittsburgh
    3,568
    Votes |
    4,681
    Posts
    Nicholas L.
    Pro Member
    #1 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat Contributor
    • Flipper/Rehabber
    • Pittsburgh
    Replied

    @Thomas Santella

    I am genuinely curious, did you truly borrow 100% of the funds for your deals - to include EMD, closing costs, down payment, etc.?

    I had the same general reaction @Chris Seveney did...

    I like to distinguish between what's possible and what's likely

    Lots of posters:

    "I can't believe how high the closing costs are on my loan - no one told me this"

    "I don't have a down payment how do I get one"

    "This tenant turnover is costing me thousands of dollars!"

    If OP is experienced, that's great.  Chris is just trying to look out for them, that's all.  If you have a method that works for you that's great too.

  • Nicholas L.
  • User Stats

    2,630
    Posts
    4,772
    Votes
    Steve K.
    • Realtor
    • Boulder, CO
    4,772
    Votes |
    2,630
    Posts
    Steve K.
    • Realtor
    • Boulder, CO
    Replied

    Buying with "none of my own money" is what we call being over-leveraged, and deal structures like this is what leads to a huge wave of foreclosures in a downturn. Now it's considered cool I guess. 

    If you're well-capitalized and have significant reserves, but you're just looking for ways to do more deals at once, then maybe borrowing the EM can make sense in certain rare circumstances. But generally I'd agree that anyone who NEEDS to borrow EM, probably shouldn't be doing that deal as the risk is too high. This is what we'd call a "subprime borrower", again harkening back to the days when lots of folks got burned when the market declined and they realized they were underwater on multiple properties, and ended up losing all of their properties to foreclosure. 

    User Stats

    4
    Posts
    2
    Votes
    Michelle Upton
    Pro Member
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Avalon, CA
    2
    Votes |
    4
    Posts
    Michelle Upton
    Pro Member
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Avalon, CA
    Replied

    Sandrene, Congratulations on having multiple deals! I can help you with earnest money deposits. We can close quickly, 2-3 days if all your ducks are in a row. To protect all parties, monies are run through the escrow/title company and remain there until the deal is done. There is a flat fee depending on amount needed. Please reach out and I will get you the rate sheet. Thank you

    User Stats

    16,730
    Posts
    14,257
    Votes
    Chris Seveney
    Pro Member
    #2 All Forums Contributor
    • Investor
    • Virginia
    14,257
    Votes |
    16,730
    Posts
    Chris Seveney
    Pro Member
    #2 All Forums Contributor
    • Investor
    • Virginia
    Replied

    @Sandrene Smart

    My post to you was stating my opinion / I made no comments about you

    I stand by my comment / if you don't have EMD you shouldn't be buying real estate

    Why not ask any financial advisor or bank this question ? What do you think their answer should be

    Just because you don’t like my opinion doesn’t mean I should not voice it.

  • Chris Seveney
  • User Stats

    12
    Posts
    4
    Votes
    Lindsey Oliver
    Pro Member
    • Investor
    • Clearwater, FL
    4
    Votes |
    12
    Posts
    Lindsey Oliver
    Pro Member
    • Investor
    • Clearwater, FL
    Replied

    Just messaged you @Sandrene Smart!

  • Lindsey Oliver
  • User Stats

    63
    Posts
    51
    Votes
    Nathan Holt
    • Newark Ohio
    51
    Votes |
    63
    Posts
    Nathan Holt
    • Newark Ohio
    Replied
    Quote from @Sandrene Smart:

    How can I go about getting earnest money quickly?

    Hey! I can bring any EMD or Double closing funds you may need. Feel free to reach out anytime! . Let's connect sometime to discuss how we can work best together!

    User Stats

    5
    Posts
    0
    Votes
    Michael Lohrenz
    • Colorado Springs, CO
    0
    Votes |
    5
    Posts
    Michael Lohrenz
    • Colorado Springs, CO
    Replied

    Sandrene, just following up if you got the EMD money for your deals? I can assist with EMD and other funding as well.