Buying a House Before It is Foeclosed

Buying a House Before It is Foeclosed

Investor · Smyrna, GA · Member since 2016 · 58 posts · 16 votes

I am aware of a house that is going to be foreclosed (the owner was not aware of a balloon pymt due, because his brother neglected to tell him).  The owner is not really willing to work with me (now) as I have mentioned that I would be making the bank an offer much less than the payoff and he was told by his bankruptcy attorney that he would receive some of the profits if the bank were able to sell the property for more than the payoff.  That would probably be my first question, 1) is that true, would he receive a portion of the profits?

My second question is, 2) would it be possible for me to try to approach the bank before foreclosure if he is not giving me access to the bank (I do know which bank he is working with)? Before I mentioned the price we were going to offer, he was ready to sign papers giving me the right to talk with the bank.

Big picture: payoff of house is about the value of just the land alone.  Owner is not able to pay and has resigned to foreclosure.      He is not sure when the bank is going to foreclose, although owner has stopped making payments and had been told the first of the year.

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Mike

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  • Investor · Smyrna, GA · Member since 2016 · 58 posts · 16 votes
    10y

    update: owner is willing to sign papers for me to talk with the bank if I give him some cash.

    Any suggestions on what percentage of the balloon payment I should offer to the bank that they will be likely to accept?

    [Remember, I'm not even a rookie, so go easy on me.]

    Thanks in advance!

  • Homeowner · Marietta, GA · Member since 2015 · 6 posts · 3 votes
    10y

    Hi Mike,

    I tried to rack my brain on this some more.  Might need the advice of a bankruptcy attorney to solve this one :)  Sounds like a complex one... but find out if seller already filed for bankruptcy and what type (7 or 13) or is he just in talks with a lawyer.  Running a title search would probably confirm if the property is included in a bankruptcy.  If chapter 7, the bankruptcy trustee may be the one you need to speak with about selling, as they have control over assets in the estate at that point.  Might not be possible to deal directly with the bank if house is already included in the bankruptcy filing.  It is up to a bankruptcy trustee and judge to accept an offer.

    Here's an article I found: http://www.findwell.com/blog/buying-a-home/buying-...

    As far as seller receiving money from sell price higher than payoff -- my opinion is if the house is foreclosed upon, and the property has little value other than land component (highest and best use a house tear-down), there is no guarantee the bank will sell the property for the full value of his payoff, especially considering the bank could sell to an investor at a discount, such as you were offering.  The lender also has costs of foreclosure and payments to make loan current to consider.  Other option, as you said, is to speak with the bank on his behalf and see if they would be willing to accept a short-sale offer, if that is possible while seller is in bankruptcy.  In that scenario, it would be difficult for the buyer to walk away with any cash, unless you offer him some of the profit from the eventual sale/flip.

    Keep us updated on progress!  Keep an eye on it if it must go through bankruptcy and maybe you're able to bid on it at auction for an even better price?

  • Professional · Loudonville, OH · Member since 2015 · 125 posts · 37 votes
    10y

    The only way to purchase the property is to have the involvement of the current owner and enter in to a purchase agreement.  Agreement will need to be contingent on the lender's approval. Lenders in short sale will never allow owner to get any of the proceeds. Yes, if the house sells for more than is owed and costs of f/c sale, the owner would be entitled to the excess, but that is more a theory than something that really ever happens in reality (except in very rare cases).  Bankruptcy trustee will abandon property unless there is non-exempt equity there, and doesn't sound like there likely is.  That will put you back to dealing with owner and getting lender approval for short sale.  

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