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Brad Schueler
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High Cap Rates Question with Property Manager

Brad Schueler
  • Cincinnati, OH
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I'm new to the website and have enjoyed the wealth of information I've already come across - thank you to everyone who contributes here.  With a goal to maximize income so I have greater freedom financially my question is surrounding high cap rate properties.  In general I've gathered the higher cap rates usually come with lower income, more hassle factor rental properties (generalization of course).

That said, all the horror stories of being a landlord are surrounding stuff breaking, calls in the middle of the night to fix stuff, evictions, etc.  This stuff, one would imagine is more prevalent on high cap rate properties.  That said, what if your plan is to pay a property manager anyway?  I'm looking for this to be truly passive income.  I'm an investment adviser and the main draw for me to real estate is frankly the % of income you can return, safely, without worry that this withdrawal unsafely draws down my principal (Show me a mutual fund you can take 10% off of year in and year out no matter what the market does and that you won't deplete).

So if you're hiring a property manager who handles all the fixes, fields all the calls when stuff breaks, screens tenants, fills vacancies, evicts people who don't pay then how much of this really matter...doesn't it come down to the numbers?

***I'll concede that if the property is a piece of junk and 30% of gross rentals are going to repairs than obviously the Cap Rate in a lot of instances is mis-stated.  I have been following the 50% rule as I shop around.***

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Daniel Chang
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Daniel Chang
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@Brad Schueler

Technically you are correct, except for it never works out that way.  The property manager is not the owner and will never act as one.   They can quit, they can mismanage, they can stop collecting rent.   Let's say a fire breaks out on your property, are you really going to leave it to the property manager to assess the damage and call the insurance company?  

Think about this like a business.  You are a business owner, and your property manager is your employee.  There ARE going to be situations where you would have to personally deal with issues.  I can't think of any employee (property manager) that I just blindly trust to act in my best interest.  

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