Why I hate the words "Let's Connect!"

Why I hate the words "Let's Connect!"

Real Estate Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2019 · 763 posts · 500 votes

How many posts a day do you see on BP, FB, Insta, or any of the other social media platforms that end with "LETS CONNECT!"

TOO MANY. And many go unread, ignored by many, because they really offered nothing in the post.

So many new investors, agents etc, type a very small paragraph offering no value, and ending it with LETS CONNECT, thinking magically people will just reach out to them.

Instead, try this. Write a paragraph that brings others VALUE. "Lets Connect" tells me nothing about you, your goals, or your business. Spend the post letting others see in detail about what you bring to the table for a potential connection, and what you are hoping to build. Give others a reason to click and respond on the post. Go that extra distance, 60 more seconds of typing, and generate better responses that will help you build relationships with others on the platforms. No need to end the post with "Let's Connect" - because the value that you brought in the post is going to make them want to connect anyway.

Hope this helps someone! It is Monday - Kill the week!

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V.G JasonPro Member
Investor · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
3y

Creating a post complaining about a lack of value being added, but doing just that. And here I am, adding to it.

Let's connect.

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  • Member since 2022 · 14 posts · 4 votes
    3y

    Karl NICE what you said...I wish if you are in Michigan

  • V.G JasonPro Member
    Investor · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3y

    Creating a post complaining about a lack of value being added, but doing just that. And here I am, adding to it.

    Let's connect.

  • Chris MasonPro Member
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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    3y

    This is an ongoing discussion among the mods. There seems to be close to a consensus that things have gotten to spammy. Just what to do about it, is another matter. There's resistance to the idea of just going back to the old rule prohibiting such posts entirely. 

    My suggestion has been to allow it depending on ratio of votes to posts, call it N%. Let's say we set it at 50%, that would mean someone with 300 posts needs to have more than 150 upvotes showing, or they aren't allowed to solicit. And no soliciting no matter what until you've made 100 posts. Something like that.

    If someone not meeting that criteria wants to be allowed to solicit, they need to go make more useful posts that get upvotes. That way, the users are deciding who is allowed to solicit, and folks are encouraged to make lots of high quality posts. Spammy posts in general are going to bring down your N% count, so you had better make them count and/or offset them with higher quality content. 

    If 50% felt to spammy, we could just move the needle to 65%, and if that felt to spammy, keep upping it until it felt right. JPOW sets his federal funds rate to move the needle in aggregate, rather than making individual decisions about each individual thing, same thing here, just move the needle as needed to produce the desired aggregate outcome, no individual debates about the price of eggs or the cost of a new car.

    And if a bunch of users with 500 posts and only 4 upvotes wind up banned b/c they just can't help but solicit... please hold the tissue I was crying into, so I can play the tiniest violin in the world while I attempt to hold back more tears. Boo hoo.

  • Real Estate Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2019 · 763 posts · 500 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Chris Mason:

    This is an ongoing discussion among the mods. There seems to be close to a consensus that things have gotten to spammy. Just what to do about it, is another matter. There's resistance to the idea of just going back to the old rule prohibiting such posts entirely. 

    My suggestion has been to allow it depending on ratio of votes to posts, call it N%. Let's say we set it at 50%, that would mean someone with 300 posts needs to have more than 150 upvotes showing, or they aren't allowed to solicit. If they want to be allowed to solicit, they need to go make more useful posts that get upvotes. That way, the users are deciding who is allowed to solicit, and folks are encourage to make lots of high quality posts. Spammy posts in general are going to bring down your N% count, so you had better make them count and/or offset them with higher quality content. 

    If 50% felt to spammy, we could just move the needle to 65%, and if that felt to spammy, keep upping it until it felt right.

    And if a bunch of users with 500 posts and only 4 upvotes wind up banned b/c they just can't help but solicit... please hold the tissue I was crying into, so I can play the tiniest violin in the world while I attempt to hold back more tears. Boo hoo.


     Interesting! Honestly this post was really aimed at new users who jump in saying they are new to an area, no amplifying info, and then "lets connect" as if thats going to make people want to know them. The goal was to show them that if they beef up the post with some value, details etc, thats what is going to make people want to build a relationship with them and help them build their business.

  • Investor · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 708 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Chris Mason:

    This is an ongoing discussion among the mods. There seems to be close to a consensus that things have gotten to spammy. Just what to do about it, is another matter. There's resistance to the idea of just going back to the old rule prohibiting such posts entirely. 

    My suggestion has been to allow it depending on ratio of votes to posts, call it N%. Let's say we set it at 50%, that would mean someone with 300 posts needs to have more than 150 upvotes showing, or they aren't allowed to solicit. And no soliciting no matter what until you've made 100 posts. Something like that.

    If someone not meeting that criteria wants to be allowed to solicit, they need to go make more useful posts that get upvotes. That way, the users are deciding who is allowed to solicit, and folks are encouraged to make lots of high quality posts. Spammy posts in general are going to bring down your N% count, so you had better make them count and/or offset them with higher quality content. 

    If 50% felt to spammy, we could just move the needle to 65%, and if that felt to spammy, keep upping it until it felt right. JPOW sets his federal funds rate to move the needle in aggregate, rather than making individual decisions about each individual thing, same thing here, just move the needle as needed to produce the desired aggregate outcome, no individual debates about the price of eggs or the cost of a new car.

    And if a bunch of users with 500 posts and only 4 upvotes wind up banned b/c they just can't help but solicit... please hold the tissue I was crying into, so I can play the tiniest violin in the world while I attempt to hold back more tears. Boo hoo.


     Sounds like a reasonable approach but just make sure the rules don't get too complicated.  Otherwise you get frustrations on both the perpetrator's side as well as those who try to report violations

  • Chris MasonPro Member
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    Lender · CA · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Andrew S.:
    Quote from @Chris Mason:

    This is an ongoing discussion among the mods. There seems to be close to a consensus that things have gotten to spammy. Just what to do about it, is another matter. There's resistance to the idea of just going back to the old rule prohibiting such posts entirely. 

    My suggestion has been to allow it depending on ratio of votes to posts, call it N%. Let's say we set it at 50%, that would mean someone with 300 posts needs to have more than 150 upvotes showing, or they aren't allowed to solicit. And no soliciting no matter what until you've made 100 posts. Something like that.

    If someone not meeting that criteria wants to be allowed to solicit, they need to go make more useful posts that get upvotes. That way, the users are deciding who is allowed to solicit, and folks are encouraged to make lots of high quality posts. Spammy posts in general are going to bring down your N% count, so you had better make them count and/or offset them with higher quality content. 

    If 50% felt to spammy, we could just move the needle to 65%, and if that felt to spammy, keep upping it until it felt right. JPOW sets his federal funds rate to move the needle in aggregate, rather than making individual decisions about each individual thing, same thing here, just move the needle as needed to produce the desired aggregate outcome, no individual debates about the price of eggs or the cost of a new car.

    And if a bunch of users with 500 posts and only 4 upvotes wind up banned b/c they just can't help but solicit... please hold the tissue I was crying into, so I can play the tiniest violin in the world while I attempt to hold back more tears. Boo hoo.


     Sounds like a reasonable approach but just make sure the rules don't get too complicated.  Otherwise you get frustrations on both the perpetrator's side as well as those who try to report violations

     Wouldn't need to be... little green checkmark thing, and if you hover your mouse over it... a picture is worth a thousand words:

  • Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Chris Mason:

    This is an ongoing discussion among the mods. There seems to be close to a consensus that things have gotten to spammy. Just what to do about it, is another matter. There's resistance to the idea of just going back to the old rule prohibiting such posts entirely. 

    My suggestion has been to allow it depending on ratio of votes to posts, call it N%. Let's say we set it at 50%, that would mean someone with 300 posts needs to have more than 150 upvotes showing, or they aren't allowed to solicit. And no soliciting no matter what until you've made 100 posts. Something like that.

    If someone not meeting that criteria wants to be allowed to solicit, they need to go make more useful posts that get upvotes. That way, the users are deciding who is allowed to solicit, and folks are encouraged to make lots of high quality posts. Spammy posts in general are going to bring down your N% count, so you had better make them count and/or offset them with higher quality content. 

    If 50% felt to spammy, we could just move the needle to 65%, and if that felt to spammy, keep upping it until it felt right. JPOW sets his federal funds rate to move the needle in aggregate, rather than making individual decisions about each individual thing, same thing here, just move the needle as needed to produce the desired aggregate outcome, no individual debates about the price of eggs or the cost of a new car.

    And if a bunch of users with 500 posts and only 4 upvotes wind up banned b/c they just can't help but solicit... please hold the tissue I was crying into, so I can play the tiniest violin in the world while I attempt to hold back more tears. Boo hoo.


    That's great to hear that an attempted solution is on the way.

  • Nathan FaseltBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · Iowa City, IA · Member since 2019 · 94 posts · 35 votes
    3y

    I yeah, that too many posts are often just saying I am new to this market or looking at investing here. Maybe there should be more like groups for local areas rather than forums,  many of the BiggerPockets community comes to the forums to seek out complicated issues and look for experience and others history with this topic. I guess you could make an argument by talking about the specific market in details our who is active there can contribute some value.  

    Also are you saying more people should just vote if they are not going to share anything besides I agree, good point, bla bla bla, ect?   I personally Believe the votes seem under utilized by the community. 

      I also appreciate the comments  @Chris Mason on the spamming and ways to reduce this finding ways to have others connect. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Northern NJ · Member since 2019 · 673 posts · 677 votes
    3y

    I feel the same but now people say "Squad up!" Makes me cringe. I know immediately I won't get along with them so I will not "connect" or "squad up". Just be normal and let things develop naturally. Is that so freaking hard?

  • Real Estate Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2019 · 763 posts · 500 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Mark F.:

    I feel the same but now people say "Squad up!" Makes me cringe. I know immediately I won't get along with them so I will not "connect" or "squad up". Just be normal and let things develop naturally. Is that so freaking hard?


     Havent heard that one yet! But I cant say it would make me want to engage either haha

  • Investor · Vancouver · Member since 2021 · 165 posts · 137 votes
    3y

    "Are you on liiinkkkeeddiinn? I looovveee connecting with people"

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    @Karl McGarvey let’s connect !

  • Accountant · Mobile Al · Member since 2019 · 33 posts · 20 votes
    3y

    @Karl McGarvey

    I’m just here for the comments.

  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 9k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    3y

    Way too vague, I don't think the person posting knows what they are looking for. If you are a newbie, the best way to take advantage of the experience here is to be direct and intentional. 

  • Jay ThomasPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2021 · 1k+ posts · 715 votes
    3y

    When it comes to Real Estate, it pays to be prepared. If you've recently joined the Real Estate industry, don't just post a message saying you're new and asking people to connect with you - give them something more substantial. Put in the time to research your target audience, provide helpful information about Real Estate trends, and bring some value into the discussion. Doing this will show that you are serious about Real Estate and demonstrate that you are an expert worth connecting with. So before jumping into conversations and sending out requests for help or advice, make sure to put in the extra effort to show why people should want to work with you! That's how relationships can really take off in Real Estate.

  • Investor · Fairfax, VA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 803 votes
    3y

    I always tell people I'm a definite Maybe when they ask vague questions.  That really confuses them.

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