Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Take Your Forum Experience
to the Next Level
Create a free account and join over 3 million investors sharing
their journeys and helping each other succeed.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
Already a member?  Login here
Goals, Business Plans & Entities
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 6 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

3,049
Posts
3,251
Votes
Kevin Sobilo#3 General Landlording & Rental Properties Contributor
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hanover Twp, PA
3,251
Votes |
3,049
Posts

Hiring an employee with performance based pay

Kevin Sobilo#3 General Landlording & Rental Properties Contributor
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hanover Twp, PA
Posted

My main strategy so far has been BRRRR and like many people I have been the cog that makes the machine turn. So, with that there are limits to how fast I can accomplish things. I've been pondering how to adjust my role so that I can so from basically being self employed with my BRRRR investing to actually having a business that will accomplish work with or without me.

So, I have been pondering hiring an employee. Someone who has handyman skills and who could do rehab/handyman work, a little project management and GC type work as well under my general supervision.

I have also been thinking of how I want to structure pay. Some of the work will be lower value handyman work and some higher value work. Also, since I will only generally be able to supervise I'd like pay to be somewhat performance based. I was thinking I would pay an hourly rate at a handyman rate ($10-15/hr which is normal in my location), but give them a bonus on each completed rehab. I think a percentage based on the ARV - (Purchase Price + Rehab Costs + Holding Costs + Any Debt Service). So, basically a cut of the equity created through the rehab itself. The idea is for the bonuses to be fairly substantial and payable when I refinance each property.

So, a couple questions:

1. What experience have people had hiring their first employee?  (What kind of role did they fill for you?)

2. Any thoughts on my idea to pay an employee based on performance?

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

2,175
Posts
1,206
Votes
John Mocker#1 Insurance Contributor
  • Insurance Agent
  • Norwalk, CT
1,206
Votes |
2,175
Posts
John Mocker#1 Insurance Contributor
  • Insurance Agent
  • Norwalk, CT
Replied

Kevin,

There is another consideration on whether or not to hire this person as a W2 employee or as a 1099 subcontractor.   The IRS, State Revenue depts., & Workers Comp. insurance companies all have "Tests" to determine if someone is truly a subcontractor or an employee for Taxes or for Insurance.  Some of those things are:

- who directs the work

- how are they paid (per job vs Hourly/Daily/Monthly)

- do they work for others

- is there a contract in place

The list continues and varies based on who is checking (IRS has different standards compared to Ins. cos.). 

If you have Workers Comp. for your business, your agent should be able to help.   Your WC policy is auditable and if the subcontractor does not have WC himself, you may end up being charged for him anyway.  If you don't have it, you will need it (even if the person is a 1099 it would be advisable to have it).

Loading replies...