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I am investing with a builder to build SFH as spec homes and sell them. Traditionally I have sold the builder land and loaned him the money to buy the land and build the house with us splitting up the profits when it sold. He didn't have much downside in terms of potential losses, and I could be somewhat passive and protected legally (he owned the building site etc. and took care of liability). This worked well as we didn't need loans.

Now we are looking at expanding and will need bank financing to do it.  As a bank will be involved I am trying to think of the best way to structure this.  Also, I have never used bank loans for building in the past and want the new setup to be both good from a liability point of view and something a bank will lend to.  I have the credit and will be funding and backing the loan.  But I really like not being an actual builder/developer/selling entity from a liability point of view.  

Should we start a new LLC as co-owners? Can I "cosign" for the loan to convince the bank to loan money to the builder (and if so require some sort of oversight from me for money to be dispersed to him?)? I'm sure I'm not the first person to be in this situation, what have others done that worked? Thanks to everyone who shares their insight and experience, it is appreciated.

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Doug Smith
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I was in banking for a bajillion years and now own a lender that specializes in this type of financing, so I feel I can answer the question. Most lenders are going to want to see a few big things from the ownership group. 1) The borrower will be the enitity (LLC, S-Corp, etc) and any owner with usually 20% or more of ownership in the entity will be expected to guaranty the loan, 2) We'll want to see some experience doing similar projects from at least one of the main owners, 3) We'll want to see bank statements showing liquidity enough to cover the intial cash injection (down payment), the closing cost, and some cash in reserve. I would note that some lenders don't like "layered" ownership structures. Let's say John owns Johnco, LLC and Mary owns Maryco, LLC. Each entity then owns XYZ, LLC, the borrowing entity. That's layering. They might want John and Mary to directly own XYZ, LLC. That's up to the lender, but many don't care for layered structures. I would also note your mention of not wanting liability, but offering to "co-sign". From a lenders viewpoint, we consider "co-signers" to actually be co-borrowers or co-guarantors having full liability for the debt as a guarantor. If you will be a large equity partner or if you hold the experience to do the deal, the lender will likely want you on as a guarantor. I do hope I didn't miss anything and that this helped a bit.

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