Of course I need to concede I am not in California and I know the rules of logic often don't apply in that litigious climate.

If Fed concedes no Bust yet.

I definitely like zoning, but I concede that your point has validity.I don't think we agree about the origins of the ADU bill, but I'm only speculating that it's do-gooder libs. 

So I decided to swing for the fences and see what the seller would concede to.

First, we would concede that over a 39-year time horizon it is highly likely that the value of the property would easily cover any net profit losses, though that fact would not necessarily effect cash flow needs.

This can be very challenging but if you hold their feet to the fire they will eventually concede and you will be able to move forward.

And you STILL came out ahead, it probably did indeed double in value.At some point we must concede that it's not "luck," the dice in the SF Bay Area are quite loaded, and they are loaded in favor of property owners.

I thought about countering, but even if he did concede to a non-exclusive deal and/or a lower fee, I'd always wonder if I were truly getting his best efforts.Thanks for the input!

However, I will concede that you are correct.

A tenant's *need* to move is a much different motivator than even the nicest unit.We have a renovated condo that is about $100 above what Rentometer.com says, but they do concede a higher price for renovated properties.