Don't know about you @Dick Rosen  but do you find that the really bad "wholesalers" look at you as more of a competitor, rather than the lifeblood of their business?

I have noticed that there is a lot of your competitors in New Jersey.  

I mentioned to my primary competitor (who is a friend, too) that I felt 'off' and he repeated MY motto to ME:Plan your work and work your plan but don't plan the results.

So from rent levels, to property prices, to repair expenses, to debt service, to what competitors are offering, to tenant underwriting, everything has to be 1. verifiable and 2. from credible sources, tax records, inspections and/or professional opinions.

He is surrounded by a lot of the big heavy wholesale hitters in the Arizona/Phoenix market, and what's great about those guys/gals is even though they are all competitors they still share information with each other to help each other exceed further in their business.

It is not something to promote my SEO, It does DAMAGE for me to tell others not to do bandit signs, because I get a LOT of my leads because of my competitors doing bandit signs.

I'd say either Code Enforcement or a competitor.

Bird dogs are generally competitors, since they're finding properties and feeding them to investors.

So you KNOW you WILL need a website eventually and doing this first will give you the advantage over every other competitor that will start their website AFTER you start yours!

I know I wouldn't which is why I have no concerns or desire to pay anything extra towards a mortgage considering the fact that it holds a cost much less than what I can make by investing that same cash into any number of other assets.Paying cash to acquire places you in a very strong position over other competitors, if you have the means to do that and get that cash back quickly, great.