First wholesale deal Fails to close

First wholesale deal Fails to close

Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes

So I sent out yellow letters to absentee owners list and I received a call from a lady saying she got my letter and saying that the house got on fire and told me she wasn't ready to sell. I go on saying we will be in touch in a couple of days. So time goes by I call her a week later to see how things are going, and she goes by explaining that she filled a claim with the insurance company and if I would like to make her an offer on the property. I agreed and went to the burnt property.

I took a friend of mine that is a GC and told me the estimates was 70k of repair. I then went to the seller told her "knowing the house needs 70k of work how much would you give it to me", she then said that some guy already made an offer at 40k but was needing to get bank approval. (the ARV was 150k-160k) I had to act quickly, so I told her ill match it and we can close than 30 days. She agreed and this was my first house under contract! I remember that I was so nervous and scared but yet excited of what I just accomplished.

A week later a buyer made an offer at 43,500$ I and my partner in this deal agreed to it.( not much money but it was going to be our first wholesale deal) Then it was time to close.

Well, title commitment came back and there was a problem, there was a dispute from one of the siblings and even though the house was under the seller name the underwriter still needed all of the siblings to sign off. Which there was a problem because one of them will not sign off since he passed away and the family holds resentment, (they are the ones that wanted part of the house but weren't in the will when their parents passed away). The seller told there is no way that family will sign off and she would not even want to deal with it. I told if later in the future you want to sell the property they still will have to sign it, and she understood and we pulled off the deal.

Sadly I was excited to get my first paycheck after 5 months of work but I guess not, but I won't give up.

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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
9y

just curious 5 months of work for 3500 and to split with a mentor partner.. are you sure this is a viable business... do you think same effort and getting listings that actually sell and buyers that actually buy might be a better use of your time and a long fruitful career.. I see this often with wholesalers .. just curious.. on your thought process there...

sounds like estate was not probated correctly is my guess.

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  • New York City, NY · Member since 2016 · 420 posts · 172 votes
    9y
    Good try. Stay persistent you will succeed my friend!
  • Real Estate Agent · Houston, TX · Member since 2017 · 159 posts · 161 votes
    9y
    Hey those things are bound to happen but the right one will come along as you stay persistent. Are you targeting the Pasadena deer park area or was this another part of Houston?
  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y

    Yes, I target east and a bit of south of Houston.  I always try to get the best deals and make sure my end buyer gets enough profits for the work he is going to do. @Effram Barrett

  • Fort Worth, TX · Member since 2015 · 76 posts · 13 votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Alejandro Flores:

    Well, title commitment came back and there was a problem, there was a dispute from one of the siblings and even though the house was under the seller name the underwriter still needed all of the siblings to sign off.

    I'm ignorant to estate law and am asking this in order to educate myself: why do the siblings need to be involved when the house is only under the seller's name?

  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y

    I  fully did not understand about that situation, my mentor would guide me along on what to do. All I know that the father owns the estate and when he passed away on his will it mentions that her wife is the executor of the estate. When she passed away she left the estate to only one child which is my seller. So one of the siblings got really mad because they wanted part of the estate, and they filed a dispute and also tried to sue my seller. Then that sibling that did the dispute passed away so the title company needed the sibling's child to sign off. @Steven McPherson this is all I know. I couldn't really understand why the title needed them since the property was under my seller's name.

  • Houston, TX · Member since 2016 · 79 posts · 29 votes
    9y
    Hey Alejandro Flores , have you tried reaching out to a different title company? Not saying it would work, but a second opinion doesn't hurt.
  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y

    Yeah I thinking about it, but since something just came up today, on the seller side. She has a documents from the attorney that show and tells that the lawsuit against my seller can not be reopen which could be a really good thing, meaning non of the other sibling have to sign except the seller( which the property is still under her name). @Rene Montelongo

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    9y

    just curious 5 months of work for 3500 and to split with a mentor partner.. are you sure this is a viable business... do you think same effort and getting listings that actually sell and buyers that actually buy might be a better use of your time and a long fruitful career.. I see this often with wholesalers .. just curious.. on your thought process there...

    sounds like estate was not probated correctly is my guess.

  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y
    Jay Hinrichs , well I'll tell you my background. Im 20 years old, goes to college full time I put in very little money on marketing since that's the only budget I have for it. 3 months of the 5, I was marketing complete bad, with no results. This last 2 months I been able to correct my marketing and started to receive calls 4-8% response rate. I have a couple good leads that I'm working on getting under contract. I might get little money or even nothing on this house that I got under contract, but what ever happens I learned from this experience. Talking to the seller, putting it under contract then going to the title company and getting a buyer, and learning that wholesaling is not easy.
  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y
    Jay Hinrichs ^^ my reply is on top of this one
  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    9y

    you may want to explore your real estate license I got mine at 18  and my brokers at 20 took about 6 to 9 months to prime the pump but I never made less than 5k a month after that... and that was 1975.  Just a thought... wholesaling from what I can see unless your one of the rare few is a quick start and frustrate and stop thing.. with no real long term money making Opps.. but it really depends on the market for sure.. if your in one of the mid west cities where you have a huge amount of low end vacant homes with distressed type real estate this can be much more viable.. if your in a more robust market or smaller town.. I suspect creating a career in real estate sale long run will treat you better..

    Plus you make infinitly more contacts as an agent than you will as a wholesaler.. you have a buyers list but buyers just want smoking deals.. home buyers pay retail... much easier. 

    again just thoughts to consider

  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y
    Jay Hinrichs I'm just need to take my last exam to get my real estate license, since I get people that want to sell their house with me. Apart from wholesaling I'm really looking deals that I want to rehab. Since the house that I got under contract is a burnt house and needed way to much work I'm looking house that need 20-50k of rehab, and I decided to find my own deals by finding really motivated sellers since theres a lot of competition on MLS and other wholesalers bring me deals that aren't any good so I'm looking own. My goal is to rehab then to go on the holding side.
  • Real Estate Consultant · Bloomfield, NJ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    one lesson I think you should have learned was to always run your title before bringing in your end buyer. this way you don't have an end buyer walking away from the deal thinking that you guys don't know what you're doing. not saying that this is what he was thinking. But as a professional wholesaler you have two customers. Your seller and your end buyer. and you want to make sure that everything is straight on both ends so that everyone walks away happy.
  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y

    Thank you for your comment @Ibrahim Hughes, Yes I learned that! I got a question for you if you don't mind answering. All the calls you get, do you follow up on the calls till they say stop or they sell? 

  • Real Estate Consultant · Bloomfield, NJ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    do you mean on my inbound leads or my outbound leads? You say "all the calls I get" as if sellers are calling me. If I've touched base with a property owner about buying their property and they're not ready yet, I keep calling until they say stop calling or the property has sold. Not sure if that answers your question.
  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y
    Ibrahim Hughes do you also follow up on the people that want too much for their property?
  • Real Estate Consultant · Bloomfield, NJ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Alejandro Flores - Nope I ask is it ok if I have my Realtor call them and talk about listing.

  • Wholesaler · Newark, DE · Member since 2015 · 303 posts · 80 votes
    9y

    Very interesting read, glad to see your maintaining your motivation and continuity in pushing forward. Hope the deal works out as it sounds like there may be some light at the end of the tunnel towards the end of the thread.

  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y

    I really appreciate your comment @Dustin Verley

  • Wholesaler · Deer Park, TX · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Add me to your buyers list I work the same area and always looking for solid wholesale deals to rehab.

  • Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2016 · 38 posts · 11 votes
    9y

    Hello @Alejandro Flores, good job at getting that deal that far. Keep going and you will run into it. One advice for you is that wholesaling is more of using 80-20 rules.

    Good luck! Let me know if you have any question. 

  • Investor · Pasadena, TX · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 25 votes
    9y
    Erick Tran I really appreciate it. Since this was my first one I had to put 50/50 but on my next deals that comes in I will try to buy it to fix and flip if not I'll do 80/20 with the guy that's been helping me.
  • Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2016 · 38 posts · 11 votes
    9y

    @Alejandro Flores I think you misunderstood it. 80-20 rule is 80% mentality and 20% of physical work. It's not how you divide up the money. I usually do 50/50 if there is a partner too. 

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